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Advice for taping first show - small venue, blues/rock
« on: November 18, 2007, 02:28:25 PM »
hi all

i received my church audio cards and 9100 pre-amp this weekend...

ive got a gig early next month which i think would be a good one to try the gear out. im going to see aynsley lister (http://www.aynsleylister.co.uk/), a blues guitarist in a small venue called the boogaloo house (http://www.boogaloopromotions.com/index.html). i havent managed to find out how many people the venue holds but, from the pics in the gallery section of the website, the stage looks small so i reckon its going to be more like in the hundreds as opposed to thousands...also, im not sure what his or the venues taping policy is, so the likely hood is that i will stealth it using the croakie mount

the music will be loud, blues/rock guitar (and as mentioned) in a small venue.

can anyone recommend how i should set up my gear? - i read somewhere that its good to have the pre-amp set half way and then adjust to what seems like a good level.

my rig:

sony mzr-55 MD player > 9100 pre-amp > church audio cards

regards

Alex

p.s. couple of other things i wanted to clarify:

1. am i hooking up the pre-amp to the 'mic in' or 'line in'?
2. when should i put the mic sensitivity to 'low' and high'?
« Last Edit: November 18, 2007, 03:42:16 PM by goldenbreast »

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Re: Advice for taping first show - small venue, blues/rock
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2007, 03:29:30 PM »
this is my 1st recording in a similar situation....

http://www.archive.org/details/samples2007-10-03..flac


mics on stand 7' high, XY, 15' from stage, slight right

i hate to toot my own horn, but i think its a damn good recording for my 1st time out.

hope it helps!  +t for your 1st time out!
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Re: Advice for taping first show - small venue, blues/rock
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2007, 05:44:05 PM »
Start with the Church ST-9100 set to unity gain (no boost or cut) which is the 11:00 position into the minidisc's line in with the minidisc's level again set to unity gain (18/30 with Hi MD, so it may very well be the same for the older MD's-maybe someone else can provide the answer). Then adjust the ST-9100 to get the proper level (the ST-9100 should provide cleaner gain than the minidisc). If you needed more than the 20 DB gain the Church provides you could then turn up the gain provided by the recorder, but as you know you would need to go into record/pause to do that. Of course if you know ahead of time from prior experience that you will need gain from the recorder, you could set it's gain above 18/30.

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Re: Advice for taping first show - small venue, blues/rock
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2007, 07:49:56 PM »
To add to what fmaderjr said... mic sensitivity only applies to the "mic in" not the "line in". If you couldn't run the 9100, then you could plug the mics into "mic in" which will power the mics (but not nearly as well as the 9100). You would them use "low sens" mode for most concert situations. Good luck!
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Re: Advice for taping first show - small venue, blues/rock
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2007, 01:23:43 PM »
got my gear setup, hopefully things will run smoothly. taking a few spare MD's and batteries just in case. i imagine the set will be around 1-1.5 hours. i will try and post a sample of it here (if i pull it off).

***UPDATE***

managed to pull it off, got a sweet recording. will be transferring it to my comp this weekend so will post samples when i get the chance
« Last Edit: December 14, 2007, 10:51:24 AM by goldenbreast »

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Re: Advice for taping first show - small venue, blues/rock
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2007, 04:57:37 PM »
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Re: Advice for taping first show - small venue, blues/rock
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2007, 08:24:48 PM »
Congratulations! +t

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Re: Advice for taping first show - small venue, blues/rock
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2007, 10:50:56 PM »
The recording above sounds great I can't get over how good those church mics sound, my first recording sounded like the mics where in my pocket as opposed to on my stand, great job!
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