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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2018, 06:07:50 PM »
The AT853 is almost identical to CA-14 cards in my tests. Maybe just the slightest bit brighter on the top and bottom ends, but only if you squint your ears.

Thank you for the info. I have a fully functional CA-14 card that I have kept as a backup, since I use my CA-11's as my main mic.
Would there be any point in owning a AT853 card if I have the CA-14?

In terms of sound quality: not really.

In terms of versatility and build-quality: definitely.

The SP-CMC 4's are very well constructed mics that allow you to switch caps.
mics: nakamichi cm-50 | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | primo em4052pmi4 | sp-cmc-4u/at-u853a 4.7k mod (h/c/sc) | ca-11 (c)
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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2018, 06:12:09 PM »
The AT853 is almost identical to CA-14 cards in my tests. Maybe just the slightest bit brighter on the top and bottom ends, but only if you squint your ears.

Thank you for the info. I have a fully functional CA-14 card that I have kept as a backup, since I use my CA-11's as my main mic.
Would there be any point in owning a AT853 card if I have the CA-14?

In terms of sound quality: not really.

In terms of versatility and build-quality: definitely.

The SP-CMC 4's are very well constructed mics that allow you to switch caps.

I found the CA-14s to be too dark.
I was looking for something bright and clear like the CA-11s...
Deck: Sony PCM-M10 Preamp: Church Audio Ugly 2 Mics: CA-11 Cardioids,CA-14 Cardioids
FS: Soundman OKMII Rock Binaural FS: CA-14 Omnis.

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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2018, 06:13:31 PM »
I'd say keep the ca-14's as a backup and buy a set of SP-CMC 4's as your main rig.

I always preferred the sound of the ca-14 cards over the ca-11 cards.
(I like the ca-11 omnis better than the ca-14 omnis though.) 

edit: just found out about your post of finding the ca-14's too dark.
Well, that's easy to fix in post with a bith of EQ-ing.

(I always found the ca-11 too bright)
mics: nakamichi cm-50 | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | primo em4052pmi4 | sp-cmc-4u/at-u853a 4.7k mod (h/c/sc) | ca-11 (c)
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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2018, 06:20:37 PM »
I'd say keep the ca-14's as a backup and buy a set of SP-CMC 4's as your main rig.

I always preferred the sound of the ca-14 cards over the ca-11 cards.
(I like the ca-11 omnis better than the ca-14 omnis though.) 

edit: just found out about your post of finding the ca-14's too dark.
Well, that's easy to fix in post with a bith of EQ-ing.

(I always found the ca-11 too bright)

Ideally, I would like a mic that sounds like the CA-11. A flat sounding mic that is hat mountable, small, built to last, and has strong customer support behind it.
Deck: Sony PCM-M10 Preamp: Church Audio Ugly 2 Mics: CA-11 Cardioids,CA-14 Cardioids
FS: Soundman OKMII Rock Binaural FS: CA-14 Omnis.

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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2018, 06:28:59 PM »
FWIW I recently bought some Church-Audio gear and I was really happy with the service. Items arrived on time and communication was perfect.

If you're happy with your ca-11's and are looking for something else only bc of the service and build-quality I'd say: buy another set of ca-11's as a backup and you're good to go for years and years to come.
mics: nakamichi cm-50 | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | primo em4052pmi4 | sp-cmc-4u/at-u853a 4.7k mod (h/c/sc) | ca-11 (c)
power: ca-ubb | ca-9200
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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2018, 08:15:42 AM »
The AT853s are maybe marginally brighter than the CA-14 cards, but not significantly so. I don't have experience with the CA-11s to know how they compare to those.

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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2018, 02:23:24 PM »
How about these?

https://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-4U

From what I've read, the low sensitivity option is a must for capturing rock shows.
Feedback would be appreciated. I'd like to make my selection by the end of next week.

The SP-CMC 4 are actually AT853 
The SP-CMC-8 are actually AT943

You can find these in the yard sale as well.

Interesting thread, was poking around looking into other options to my current CA-11 Omni's and CA-14 Cards. These have dropped to $200 in the SP ad.
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CA-14 Cardioid Mic's - CA-11 Omni's - Rode M5 Mic's
CA 9200 PreAmp - CA UBB - Rolls Mic Power II B
Busman MOD Tascam DR-70D - TASCAM DR-100MKII 
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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2018, 03:57:57 PM »

The SP-CMC 4 are actually AT853 
The SP-CMC-8 are actually AT943

You can find these in the yard sale as well.

Interesting thread, was poking around looking into other options to my current CA-11 Omni's and CA-14 Cards. These have dropped to $200 in the SP ad.

$244 with the low-sens option, which you'll want. Still well worth the price, though — very similar to the CA-14 cards in sound profile, but more sturdy.

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Re: Suggestions Needed for CA-11 Card Replacement
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2018, 04:46:20 PM »

The SP-CMC 4 are actually AT853 
The SP-CMC-8 are actually AT943

You can find these in the yard sale as well.

Interesting thread, was poking around looking into other options to my current CA-11 Omni's and CA-14 Cards. These have dropped to $200 in the SP ad.

$244 with the low-sens option, which you'll want. Still well worth the price, though — very similar to the CA-14 cards in sound profile, but more sturdy.

More sturdy indeed. Plus interchangeable caps. I know they are not that popular here, but I love my at-853 hyper cardioid caps. They saved me more than once when I taped in a muddy sounding room.
Also, the sub cardioid caps are amazing. But being able to get them is another story of course.
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mics: nakamichi cm-50 | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | primo em4052pmi4 | sp-cmc-4u/at-u853a 4.7k mod (h/c/sc) | ca-11 (c)
power: ca-ubb | ca-9200
recorder: roland r-05
video: panasonic hdc-sd600 | panasonic hdc-700 | sony hx9v | sony hx50v

 

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