Topic: at 4050 MAJOR fluff....

[Ray76]

We struggled for a long time trying to run 4022's, hell we couldn't pull a tape from 10' dfc.

What'd you expect, running DPAs? 

And fair enough - some mics are more forgiving than others, absolutely true, and this will sometimes result in a recording that sounds better than the room.  Though I'd more likely chalk up the recording turning out better than the room to the difference in the way mics "hear" v. the human hearing, i.e. what keepongoin' said.

of course the opposite has also occured, where I thought I was going to be goldern and upon listening, i found out a had captured crap.

Had this happen to me, recently - thought the Chicago QOTSA performance sounded mighty fine, but the recording sounds pretty poor, IMO, just dull and muffled to my ears.   

at any rate these at 4050s were a steal for um........100 bucks.

hehe

[Unitmonster]

 i've heard some muddy, boomy bad pa's and rooms sound pretty nice on tape

I had that happen this week.  I taped a show in this tiny club here in town that has a BRUTAL PA.  Really wretched sound.  Add to that the fact that the lead singer used slapback reverb on his vocals for rockabilly styles and you get a horrible mess of noise.  Anyhow, taped it from about 20' back and figured "no way in hell this is going to be listenable".  However, it came out fairly enjoyable.  Much better than at the venue that's for sure.


 Here's the result attached:

[Ed.]

my biggest problem lately has been the vocals.  i get a kickass tape but hardly any vocals on it.  i always blame the soundman tho.

[Ray76]

my biggest problem lately has been the vocals.  i get a kickass tape but hardly any vocals on it.  i always blame the soundman tho.

thats why i always get two sources, it has been the case most of the time ive taped that i hjave the same problem you have. thats what i use the SBD for and nothing else.

no i gotta throw this reverb soaked shite away.

Ray

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dull and muffled to my ears.   

uh, Brian.... you run Schoeps mics.

[Brian Skalinder]

dull and muffled to my ears.   

uh, Brian.... you run Schoeps mics.

I knew that was coming!  But I ran two sets of gear and they both stunk:  MK21 (NOS) > V3, AKG C414B-ULS (Blumlein) > T+ UA5.  Hmph.

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did the Queens happen to play the Aragon (aka the 2nd worst sounding venue on Earth next to the Eagles Auditorium)?

[Nick Graham]

dull and muffled to my ears.   

uh, Brian.... you run Schoeps mics.

Them's fightin' words...

 

 

[Brian Skalinder]

did the Queens happen to play the Aragon (aka the 2nd worst sounding venue on Earth next to the Eagles Auditorium)?

The Aragon's not so bad if you get FOB roughly underneath the disco ball (a la my fall '03 Primus recording).  But no, the recording of note was an outdoor show at Cubs Care Park, courtesy of Q101.  And yeah, Eagles Aud sucks.

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did the Queens happen to play the Aragon (aka the 2nd worst sounding venue on Earth next to the Eagles Auditorium)?

The Aragon's not so bad if you get FOB roughly underneath the disco ball (a la my fall '03 Primus recording).  But no, the recording of note was an outdoor show at Cubs Care Park, courtesy of Q101.  And yeah, Eagles Aud sucks.

sidebar: i've got a good buddy who works for Q101. he goes by "Twitch" when he's on-air.

[Brian Skalinder]

brian how are you liking your t+mod? do you think it sounds as transparent as the v3? just curious what your thoughts are considering you have run both boxes.

I haven't done a direct comp (yet), but my initial thoughts are that it's every bit as transparent, if not more so, but lacks a bit of the finer detail and soundstaging of the V3.  I hope to run a direct T+ UA5 / V3 comp soon, splitting the mics (Schoeps MKx, AKG 414) to both boxes.

[Kyle]

I've taped 3 shows with AT4050>SX-M2>SBM1 and they smoked (Phish Japan '99).  Again, probably as much to do with the venue and sound as anything, but they're always being listed as SBDs on people's lists.

I have those recordings - very nice job!