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Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« on: May 26, 2007, 08:34:39 AM »
I've only seen/heard of the h120 + h140. There must be more??

Obviously I need it to record in WAV, needs to be able to install rockbox and need line in jack.

Anything else?


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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2007, 08:40:55 AM »
h320/340
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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2007, 08:42:25 AM »
I use the H320, which has limitations as opposed to the h1xx models.

Line in only, as opposed to the option of optical (I think) on the h1xx.

But there are Rockbox builds available for it and I have pulled a couple of good shows with it (and more than a few disasters  :-[ ) with the Church Audio Cards / St9000 pre that I am running.

When it comes to discontinued models you gotta take what you can get/afford at the time.

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Always Taping Under The Influence.

I was under the assumption that as a taper, we're all geeks?  I just thought it went with the territory?

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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2007, 08:49:11 AM »
Yea, I want to upgrade from my Hi-MD to iRiver so I can record in WAV.

So what are the limitations?? Can you adjust levels?
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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2007, 08:57:14 AM »
Yea, I want to upgrade from my Hi-MD to iRiver so I can record in WAV.

So what are the limitations?? Can you adjust levels?

The only difference that I am aware of, is that the h1xx  offers both Line in and Optical in, (someone please jump in here if I am wrong), while the h3xx only offers Line in.

Once rockboxed it still provides a great little taping machine. Small, Lightweight and functional. Records in Wavepack with the REP build of Rockbox.

I can give you a sample if you like, so you know what it is capable of.

Dave.
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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2007, 08:59:43 AM »
Please do if you have time. :)

Thanks for your help
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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2007, 09:00:12 AM »
With the stock firmware on the H1XX models you cannot adjust levels while recording.  Install the Rockbox firmware and you will never look back.  If you want to do any serious recording Rockbox cannot be beat.

The H1XX series has optical input and analog.  The H320 only has analog.  You can decide how important that fact is to you.

It's really a damn shame that these are not in production anymore.  I have the H120 and I love it.  The unit is small, but built very well.  The only thing I didn't like at first was it has a little joystick for the control.  That takes a bit of getting used to.

Also, I love it as an MP3 player.  You don't need special software to transfer music.  It acts as an external storage device.  You can copy and paste folders and it will read them just like a PC.  If you want mixed songs you can create one folder and dump all teh songs you want there.  It will see the folder and play through it in order.

iRiver succeeded in creating a damn goo product.  I wish the H1XX series was still in production. 

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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2007, 09:08:14 AM »
Line-in being analog, how much of a difference does that make??

Surely it can't be nothing major...
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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2007, 09:14:44 AM »
Please do if you have time. :)

Thanks for your help

This is a track from Hayseed Dixie back in April at the Islington Academy in London, England.

Church Audio Cards > ST9000 Preamp > iRiver

About 10' from stage lip, dead center.

http://www.mediafire.com/?a4hzw1bzbf3

Mp3 I am afraid, but I am struggling with uploads right now.

Gives you a good idea of what you can do with the H3xx series.

Dave.
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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2007, 09:18:03 AM »
the h1xx models have both digital-in AND digital out.
the h3xx have neither digital-in nor digital-out.
the h3xx has color-display, the h1xx monchrom-display.

its very easy to tape with rockbox and ie. church audio cards without a battery box or preamp.
just plug the mics to the irivers combined mic/line-in plug which powers the mics with 3-4V and set the rockboxed iriver recording settings to "AGC-safety-clip" starting with +15dB for left+right gain.
press start and hold button and enjoy the show;).
"AGC-safety-clip" is not THE known AGC we all know from md recorders which is good for speech but awful for music recordings.
"AGC-safety-clip" reduces levels when clipping might occur BUT never boosts levels when a loud song is followed by a silent song.
it does exactly what any taper does when setting levels by hand without the "bad" known AGC algorythm.
 ;)
here a 2 samples i recorded with my rockboxed iriver H140 and the church-audio cards+preamp. would not sound different without the preamp. only needs more normalisation in post.
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,84929.0.html
« Last Edit: May 26, 2007, 09:20:59 AM by Arni99 »
1st: SONY PCM-M10 + DPA 4060's + DPA MPS 6030 power supply (microdot)
2nd: iPhone 5 + "Rode iXY" microphone/"Zoom IQ5" microphone

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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2007, 12:45:58 PM »
Just snapped up an iRiver h120 for £80, is that a good price?? (I seem to think so...)  :)
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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2007, 01:48:09 PM »
Just snapped up an iRiver h120 for £80, is that a good price?? (I seem to think so...)  :)
consider yourself very lucky :)

now head over to http://www.rockbox.org and install rockbox :)

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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2007, 02:20:17 PM »
Yup, as soon as it arrives I'll rockbox it.  :)
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Re: Which iRiver models are good for taping??
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2007, 10:03:46 PM »
Just nabbed a nearly new 120 of craigslist for 75.00, what a steal :), if you are patient you can still find a good deal out there, also got a 320 for a good price and want to compare the 2 models for myself, i am afraid i am getting hat itch to keep improving-moving my rigs to the next level, as far as ease goes though the m100 is still a great little recording unit

 

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