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Title: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: mfrench on September 27, 2017, 07:16:51 PM
Every so often I'm asked to go low profile, even with an ensemble that I've openly recorded 15 years. Those times are typically when they are hosted by some other production company, and not their own concert productions. So, quite a few years back, I developed this rig, which is in a small ballistic nylon bag.  zThe bag was originally sold as a light "lunch box".
When I first used it, I was running a SD 722, which fit the bag nicely.  I'd use the timer of the 722, to turn on the deck automatically.
Now, I have the DR70D, which sort of floats around inside the bag, but, this is not an issue.
There is a triangular wire frame inside the netted portion of the bag. It holds the caps at 205mm, at 90ยบ, or nearly a perfect DIN-stereo spread.
I left the black obscuring lace out for the pictures, and forgot to take another pic with it all set up. The lace totally obscures the DIN rig.

WIth the DR70D, and this bag, and my DPA4060 HRTF rig, I can run four channels from my lap. In the times when I've needed to go this route, I've been in the hall well over an hour before the doors open, and I manage a good first row seat. It is generally a clear view for the rig.

I tried this set up with my new CM3 pair, and this is the result:...
Title: Re: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: u2_fly_2 on September 28, 2017, 05:06:40 AM
Great stuff :-)
Title: Re: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: Datfly on September 28, 2017, 07:20:15 PM
 Looks cool but where do you place the bag?
Title: Re: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: mfrench on September 28, 2017, 07:46:26 PM
I don't record shows where I need to stand up. I've used it as a lap bag, or, placed on the seat next to me. With the ensembles that I've used it on, I'm usually in the hall well in advance of the doors opening, so grabbing a good seat isn't ever a problem.
This thing would be worthless in a rowdy crowd of people standing. There is probably a use for it in other regards, but, to me it is a low profile open recording device.
Title: Re: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: mfrench on September 29, 2017, 08:28:14 PM
^ exactly.
Title: Re: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: acidjack on October 02, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
What kind of bag is that? Would fit exactly my needs for a similar purpose...
Title: Re: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: mfrench on October 02, 2017, 10:44:15 AM
AJ,

Sarge brought it home for me from one of her MANY trips to places like BigLots, Pick&Save, etc (sort of her hobby). It is a generic cheapie. 
I mostly use it to store my recorder in the recording bag, wrapped up in a towel inside of it.
Title: Re: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: drivingwheel on October 02, 2017, 04:18:01 PM
I plugged the mics into the recorder, sat the mics on a stand inside the SBD cage, hit "REC" and went to load-in and play my own set at a different stage over a mile away...

During load-in, I could hear "Levee" and I'm like "they're WAY too loud; those mics will be overloaded all to hell"...but it came out fantastic :

https://archive.org/details/bbs2014-09-26.aud.rootsbluesfestival.flac
Title: Re: Set It and Forget It Rig
Post by: Gutbucket on October 13, 2017, 12:06:17 PM
Set it and forget it..
It's interesting to hear stuff I recorded but wasn't there when it was being performed.

I mostly forswore running multiple rigs at fests years ago, as I have more fun concentrating on running one rig with maximum effort and attention for a few select sets of interest.  A quality over quantity thing that works better for me.  But on a few occasions I've left my rig running with another taper while I needed a break and headed back to camp.  Listening to those recordings later is kind of like an out of body experience.  I don't have the same direct memory reinforcement I do for most things I record where I'm fully engaged in the moment, although I know the location and sound of the rig in that location intimately.  In a way, it's sort of like listening to someone else's recording.  There is less emotional attachment.. it's good but far less engaging.  I imagine it may be similar to the experience someone else might have listening to my stuff.  And that's somehow useful to know, if mildly depressing.

Mike, I think I have that same lunchbox bag, picked up from a gf who said "maybe you can use this..", since kept with the recording gear awaiting usefulness.