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Gear / Technical Help => Battery Boxes, Preamps, Mixers, ADCs, and Processors => Topic started by: Simp-Dawg on March 16, 2004, 01:17:19 PM
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hey all, got my dmic-20 from stejampzy last weekend and i ran it for the first time at signal path on saturday night. i was on the stage lip at cervantes, and there was somewhat of a sound hole where i was, not too bad, but the levels on the tapes were quite low. i had the dmic opened all the way up, all the switches down (in the on position) and the todd-mod knobs turned all the way up, still i don't think i hit over -6 db the whole night.
now, when i was running my usbpre, i never had to turn the knob past about 11:00 so i still had plenty of gain left to apply if needed. i'm wondering if anyone has any advice for me, can relate from personal experience running the dmic-20 with oktavas, or just kind words ;)
thanks!
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Josh, I had the DAP1 opened up the whole way and probably never hit over -5db the whole night... I think that show was a bit of an annomaly.
I remember running that thing around -35, -30 on the dip switches.
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simp, im clueless why that happened/happens!!
recreate the experience at home, and see if everything is werking alright!!
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It was really bizarre bean...
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some kinda glitch in the matrix?
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some kinda glitch in the matrix?
;D
tim, seems REALLY odd, that thing usually ALWAYS had nice gain, has he ever ran it w/ the oktava's before??maybe they just dont have a sensitive pickup??
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not sure if the octavas have a really low ouput but that does seem exceptionally low especially for onstage. i never used more than 3 dip switches of gain when i used it with the 391s.
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the oktavas seem to have pretty high output, which is why i'm confused also. i don't have an exceptionally loud playback system either so i can't really test much at home...i did a test run before the show and the levels were pretty low at home also but i attributed it to my sound system.
also...why/how is -60 higher gain than -20??? what is up with the dip switches?
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the dip switches suck ass. I didn't know about them until I got the thing, and cursed Nutter's name for not mentioning that *detail*. Still, you really only ever run the last few switches, and I never once clipped a tape. It's kinda nice to set and forget. I'd bet that it just wasn't all that loud onstage, remember the music isn't amplified there, your'e really taping acoustic. Test at home, I bet you'll get levels that are fine in front of the speakers.
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simp's has some nice 10db nobs on it... much better than just the dip switches.
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simp's has some nice 10db nobs on it... much better than just the dip switches.
5db :P
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Simp,
I ran the d-mic>oktava combo for a while, you should always be in the 30-45 range. In fact I dont think I EVER had to adjust the gain on it once I got it set. I cant remember what the setting was. Just 3 or 4 switches from the right if your looking at the unit.
Had to be a strange phenomenon.
oh yeah +T to everybody
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Just remember stage-lip/on-stage is probably a monitor recording not from the general speakers. I'm sure the levels are much lower on-stage... otherwise the musicians would go deaf even faster. ;)
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i have the last two switches down and i never out them up. the oktava>dmic is a great combo. But the 480s hopefully will be comming soon
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good luck on those 480's, al, thats a suite combo!!
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good luck on those 480's, al, thats a suite combo!!
have you ever said the 480s> anything is not a good combo?
;D :P
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good luck on those 480's, al, thats a suite combo!!
have you ever said the 480s> anything is not a good combo?
;D :P
thats a good point
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BUSTED!!
but seriously tho, i pretty much do like em out of any box, theyre an all around great mic, and the best value out there, especially w/ the schoeps going on the rise again!!!
even really dig the 481>zefiro box tapes i have, and i LOVED the 481>dmic combo
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i've run this thing about 4 times now and still get really shitty levels even opened all the way up and running fob at the fillmore. i don't know what the deal is! maybe i'll borrow some other mics and see if it's just a low output from the oktavas, but i've never had that problem before...well when todd r takes a look at it we'll see what's up.
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let us know bud
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"Just remember stage-lip/on-stage is probably a monitor recording not from the general speakers. I'm sure the levels are much lower on-stage... otherwise the musicians would go deaf even faster. "
in my experience, sound levels on-stage are louder than at foh or ts. ever noticed that most musicians wear earplugs?
the main thing your going to pickup from the monitors is vocals and things like keyboards that use direct-outs instead of on-stage amps.