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Gear / Technical Help => Battery Boxes, Preamps, Mixers, ADCs, and Processors => Topic started by: Simp-Dawg on July 30, 2005, 12:36:31 PM
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at least not on inital listening. i ran the HPF for a bunch of stuff at 10klf, tracking out signal path right now. it was realy bassy at the show under the tent, so i threw it on a few seconds into the first song. it doesn't sound bad, but i can tell there's a good amount of low end missing from the tape. we'll see how the rest of the weekend turned out (this was the first show i taped) and hopefully i turned it off for most of the open air stuff...can't remember though ;)
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Having only ran the V3 twice now. I did run HPF1 for moe. Buff. I had no filter on and set at 25 and no trim. Levels were going throught the roof! We were very close to the stage as far as FOB goes though. Flipped it down to 1 with some trim and it seems to smooth it out, but there is a lack of low end, not a lot, but some. I probably should have moved back 10ft, and ran with no filter. I wish it wouldn't make the sound on the recording to where you can tell you flipped the switch.
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guess i'll need to open 'er up and find out what jumper settings i've got it on...
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bought it used and had them do the optical mod to it. tanking hard and fast? what exactly do you mean?
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I've been using the HPF2 a ton since last Fall. I'm catching a lot of flack from other Panic tapers, but I really like how it sounds. If anyone wants to compare there were two of us running AKG 481 > V3 on Wednesday one row apart. Mine was with HPF2 and his was without:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16638
http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?t=12030
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i used hpf2 a lot when i was running tl>v2>modsbm1 and was quite pleased with the results. when i went to the v3 i found i was using less often. I haven't had to use it yet with my latest rig.
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I normally run mine at 75hz@6db depending on the room. I ran it last year 100hz@12db for 3 out of the 4 Melvins shows I was at (regretted running it active in the long run, but tapes still smoke).
Rolloff - depends on what you tape and the room. trial and error. thats all it amounts to. Experiment to see what works for you.
Have fun w/the V3!! :)
-Jim
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HPF1 really cuts out a lot of low end info. HPF2 will do the trick nicely.
Its too bad Grace labeled them backwards in a sense. You would think HPF1 would cut less bass than HPF2, but in reality its the other way around.
Simp-let me know when you are done tracking Path's set.
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I have used both, and they both have their uses...I have used HPF1 a few times when running the omni's with the TL's..still got some phat bass
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You would think HPF1 would cut less bass than HPF2, but in reality its the other way around.
agreed, that's bass ackwards
makes no sense at all
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You would think HPF1 would cut less bass than HPF2, but in reality its the other way around.
agreed, that's bass ackwards
makes no sense at all
I was thnking the same thing....guess less is more in this case
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top to bottom, that's how channel strips on sbd's are laid out.... grace is bottom to top
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The HPF's are the only reason I have thought about upgrading to a V3 , I also like the the MiniMe .
I would like to be able run a Bit hotter , And have some sorta comfort level.
These are the things that the "Big Boy's" have over the UA-5. Even with a Mod ..
Nick
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After getting it wrong once, here's how I think of the hpf switch. When looking at the face of the V2/3, the higher setting has a higher frequency cutoff. No matter what the internal jumpers are at, hpf1 cuts it higher than hpf2. It also helps if the lettering is worn off ;)
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ok, I just went to look at my v2 to confirm and after checking, stood up into the corner of a glass cupboard door. My head is bleeding. If I don't post again within 24 hours please tell my wife and kids I love them and put my gear into the ts gear loaner program ;D
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checked the v3 jumpers, they were all on low position.
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last weekend i got a bit tipsy while taping. when i took out my bag this weekend i had the right hpf on 2, nothing changed on the left side and my sample rate was at 88.2 and i know for a fact that i started on 44.1.
i'm curious to find out what my recordings actually sound like. should be interesting to say the least.
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my sample rate was at 88.2 and i know for a fact that i started on 44.1.
i'm curious to find out what my recordings actually sound like. should be interesting to say the least.
I did that once recording to my lappy, nothing but static.
Hope yours turned out better than mine. :P :)
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I once ran ADK TLs>V3 with one mic on Figure 8, the other on hyper...not to mention I had the HPF2 on the Figure 8 mic....
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the worst is when the v3 sat for a couple months and restores to factory settings, gets me scrambling everytime, im like 'OH FUCK'
then i look at my sample rate selection and its off :)
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my preshow V3 checklist: (after lots of screwups) ;D
1) mics plugged in?
2) Phantom on and seeing some pretty flashing lights on the level meter?
3) 44.1 KHz?
4) ANSR off?
5) HPF centered?
OK! Ready to roll!!! :-*
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my preshow V3 checklist: (after lots of screwups) ;D
1) mics plugged in?
2) Phantom on and seeing some pretty flashing lights on the level meter?
3) 44.1 KHz?
4) ANSR off?
5) HPF centered?
OK! Ready to roll!!! :-*
same here except my xlr's NEVER leave the v3, neitehr does the power cable or the digi-outs, less for me to forget/screwup ;D
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at least not on inital listening. i ran the HPF for a bunch of stuff at 10klf, tracking out signal path right now. it was realy bassy at the show under the tent, so i threw it on a few seconds into the first song. it doesn't sound bad, but i can tell there's a good amount of low end missing from the tape. we'll see how the rest of the weekend turned out (this was the first show i taped) and hopefully i turned it off for most of the open air stuff...can't remember though ;)
well i finally took a listen. there is definitely some low end info missing, but i'd have to say its not too bad. I just have to crank the low end frequencies. Track 2 sounds good tho!
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but i can tell there's a good amount of low end missing from the tape
but there is a lack of low end, not a lot, but some
there is definitely some low end info missing, but i'd have to say its not too bad.
So, maybe I'm just reading these comments wrong. As I read these comments, every one says something or other BUT...there's low end missing. As if a reduction in low end was somehow unexpected. It's an HPF, after all, right?
Doesn't seem quite right to me to say one dislikes the HPF after using it one time. Seems it's not the V3s HPF that's disliked, but using an HPF - any HPF - in the specific circumstances described.
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I've grown to really like it, but wish like crazy that hpf1 was 75hz@6dB. that would just be so ideal.
can't jumper it to get that roll-off??
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??? True you can't set HPF1 for 75/6, but you can set HPF2 for 75Hz/6db rolloff via the jumpers. So if you only want 75hz/6db it can be done, or are you saying you want 50hz/6db on HPF2 and 75/6db on HPF1? If this is the case, then yes you're right, you can't configure to get both of those available at once.
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but i can tell there's a good amount of low end missing from the tape
but there is a lack of low end, not a lot, but some
there is definitely some low end info missing, but i'd have to say its not too bad.
So, maybe I'm just reading these comments wrong. As I read these comments, every one says something or other BUT...there's low end missing. As if a reduction in low end was somehow unexpected. It's an HPF, after all, right?
Doesn't seem quite right to me to say one dislikes the HPF after using it one time. Seems it's not the V3s HPF that's disliked, but using an HPF - any HPF - in the specific circumstances described.
maybe it would be more fair to say i'm not pleased that i rolled off that much bass on these recordings. i didn't realize that hpf1 was more severe than hpf2, as i really only wanted a slight bass rolloff. better? :P
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I've been using the HPF2 a ton since last Fall. I'm catching a lot of flack from other Panic tapers, but I really like how it sounds. If anyone wants to compare there were two of us running AKG 481 > V3 on Wednesday one row apart. Mine was with HPF2 and his was without:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16638
http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?t=12030
Jeff I can't believe someone screwed around with your rig, that is messed up. I think I seriously would have went ape shit on "Smiley", crossing the line in a big way ...
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I've been using the HPF2 a ton since last Fall. I'm catching a lot of flack from other Panic tapers, but I really like how it sounds. If anyone wants to compare there were two of us running AKG 481 > V3 on Wednesday one row apart. Mine was with HPF2 and his was without:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=16638
http://digitalpanic.org/bittorrent/showthread.php?t=12030
Jeff I can't believe someone screwed around with your rig, that is messed up. I think I seriously would have went ape shit on "Smiley", crossing the line in a big way ...
I agree. I'm not a huge fan of bass rolloff (although that is also situation-dependent), but screwing with someone's rig is definitely grounds for an immediate ass-kicking.
One thing is for sure, if you think bass rolloff is needed, it is better to do it on the fly (if you like the settings on your mic/pre/whatever) than in post. I've noticed more artifacts from EQ'ing in post than from using rolloff at the show.
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guy's, it's smiley... I know jeff and he's a good guy but fighting smiley would not be advised
if you've never taped a band with a long and storied taper history then you're probably not going to get it but no one is kicking smiley's ass for anything 8)
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guy's, it's smiley... I know jeff and he's a good guy but fighting smiley would not be advised
if you've never taped a band with a long and storied taper history then you're probably not going to get it but no one is kicking smiley's ass for anything 8)
I don't care how smiley he is, in Jersey, you toucha my rig, I breaka you face.
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sure thing, whatever you say tough guy :P
guido tapers
(http://www.nj.com/weblogs/jersey/pics/0629guido.jpg)
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sure thing, whatever you say tough guy :P
guido tapers
(http://www.nj.com/weblogs/jersey/pics/0629guido.jpg)
Hey, that's my friend Vinnie. He blocks for me at real crowded shows. Wooks are terrified of him.