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Title: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Big Perm on September 04, 2009, 11:19:13 PM
Ok, so i just picked up a V-2 and need battery supply.  what are my best options?
bp
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: coloartist on September 05, 2009, 11:28:02 AM
I use a Kindkables.com dual power cable with two Walmart lithiums. This gives me a huge amount of hours, and if one battery dies on me, I stil have a backup.
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Big Perm on September 05, 2009, 04:02:30 PM
are u talking about the 9v lion DVD batteries?  Will this one work with the v-2..UNIVERSAL DVD Battery, 9V 23Wh LI-ION by Lenmar?
thx
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: OFOTD on September 05, 2009, 05:20:41 PM
are u talking about the 9v lion DVD batteries?  Will this one work with the v-2..UNIVERSAL DVD Battery, 9V 23Wh LI-ION by Lenmar?
thx

The one and the same....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Initial-Universal-Portable-DVD-battery-Brand-New-Inpack_W0QQitemZ250451484801QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3a50126081&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Big Perm on September 05, 2009, 05:39:00 PM
the lenmar is the same as the one in the link you just posted? also, i have read about an internal switch for 6v - 12v.  what do i do here?
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: NOLAfishwater on September 05, 2009, 07:50:00 PM
the lenmar is the same as the one in the link you just posted? also, i have read about an internal switch for 6v - 12v.  what do i do here?


if you buy a 9V battery, you leave it on 6V and the extra voltage is released as heat.
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Big Perm on September 05, 2009, 08:43:48 PM
ok, very cool, now is the machine set at 6 or 12 when i get, its used, so how do i check? if the 9v powers it, its set 6 if it doesn't it's 12v?
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Brian Skalinder on September 05, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
ok, very cool, now is the machine set at 6 or 12 when i get, its used, so how do i check? if the 9v powers it, its set 6 if it doesn't it's 12v?

Correct:  if the V2 is set to 12v, the 9v battery will not power it (see the manual and/or Grace website for how to change it from 12v to 6v).  If the V2 is set to 6v, the 9v will power it fine -- but the V2's low battery indicator and auto-shutoff features won't work any longer, unless you recalibrate them.  I believe Grace has the calibration instructions on their website.  At least for the V3, anyway, not positive about the V2. When I ran V3, I never bothered recalibrating because the 9v battery had its own battery meter.

Brain cramp.  See Ed's correction here:  http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,126547.msg1680268.html#msg1680268

Edit to add:  Sorry for bouncing the thread around a couple times.  I flubbed the first move.
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: coloartist on September 05, 2009, 09:28:25 PM
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This is my V3, but the cable and battery are the same with a different connector on the V2.
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: thekittycatt on September 06, 2009, 12:37:21 AM
Bennett,

Is the power cable coming from the V3 connected to both batteries?
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Big Perm on September 06, 2009, 11:37:55 AM
i was going to ask the same thing
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: NOLAfishwater on September 06, 2009, 11:44:25 AM
running two 9V batteries allows you to get something like 8.5 hours of run time.
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: coloartist on September 06, 2009, 01:14:13 PM
I use a Kindkables.com dual power cable with two Walmart lithiums. This gives me a huge amount of hours, and if one battery dies on me, I stil have a backup.
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Big Perm on September 06, 2009, 07:21:34 PM
how long if you use one battery at a time?
bp
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Jhurlbs81 on September 07, 2009, 08:31:34 AM
When I ran my v3 as a pre-amp only I'd get at least 4.5 hours. 
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: deadheaded on September 07, 2009, 01:57:00 PM
ok, very cool, now is the machine set at 6 or 12 when i get, its used, so how do i check? if the 9v powers it, its set 6 if it doesn't it's 12v?

Correct:  if the V2 is set to 12v, the 9v battery will not power it (see the manual and/or Grace website for how to change it from 12v to 6v).  If the V2 is set to 6v, the 9v will power it fine -- but the V2's low battery indicator and auto-shutoff features won't work any longer, unless you recalibrate them.  I believe Grace has the calibration instructions on their website.  At least for the V3, anyway, not positive about the V2. When I ran V3, I never bothered recalibrating because the 9v battery had its own battery meter.

Edit to add:  Sorry for bouncing the thread around a couple times.  I flubbed the first move.
there is no switch for changing the voltage on the v-2.  the 4 pin xlr input is wired for both 6 and 12 volts.  if you wire the cable pin 1 neg and pin 4 pos the v-2 will run on 12 volts, if you wire the cable pin 2 neg and pin 3 pos the v-2 will run off of 6 volts.
for the 9 volt lion battery i use the 6 volt system.
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Brian Skalinder on September 07, 2009, 02:18:29 PM
there is no switch for changing the voltage on the v-2.  the 4 pin xlr input is wired for both 6 and 12 volts.  if you wire the cable pin 1 neg and pin 4 pos the v-2 will run on 12 volts, if you wire the cable pin 2 neg and pin 3 pos the v-2 will run off of 6 volts.
for the 9 volt lion battery i use the 6 volt system.

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Of course.  It's been too long since I ran one.  Thanks fo the correction, Ed.
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: Grace Tech on November 13, 2009, 05:49:38 PM
The V2 has Jumpers J21 and J22 for 6-12v selection (see page 2 of: http://www.gracedesign.com/support/v2_voltage_cal.pdf). Like on the V3, these only affect the Low Batt LED and auto shut off point. The 4 pin XLR wiring that Ed is referring to is on the battery end for Eco-Charge Batteries.  The 4 pin jack on the V2 has pins 3 and 4 (+ voltage) connected and pins 1 and 2 (- ground) connected. We recommend using pin 4 for + and pin 1 for ground.

Neal
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: greenone on November 13, 2009, 09:45:27 PM
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Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: sgordo on February 01, 2010, 10:30:39 AM
Does anyone know the size of the connector for a V2 power cable using the portable DVD player batteries like the ones discussed in this thread?
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: thepassionofyonder on February 01, 2010, 01:18:28 PM
Does anyone know the size of the connector for a V2 power cable using the portable DVD player batteries like the ones discussed in this thread?

so i think its one of these two.

http://www.mouser.com/Interconnects/DC-Power-Connectors/_/N-womu?P=1z0xbudZ1z0vlpqZ1z0x81jZ1z0x813

i was also wondering about making a cable that allows me to run two batts in parrallel. i remember someone saying that you should use a diode. but cannot seem to find that thread. anyone have any advice(other than ordering from kindcables).


found this thread, thanks NOLA
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=122606.0
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: thepassionofyonder on February 09, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
really?
one week and not one answer.
what happened to this place  ???
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: yug du nord on February 09, 2010, 12:02:01 PM
really?
one week and not one answer.
what happened to this place  ???

I got ya justy.....   obviously the V2 end has a 4pin XLR style and the DVD "wally world" lithium battery has a barrel style type "B" plug.  Don't know if the type "B" is a universal code name....  but that's what Radio Shack calls that size in their "Adapta-Plug" series. 

Outer Diameter:        4.0mm
Inner Diameter :        1.7mm
Radio Shack part # :   273-1705

edit to add:  If you're running an adaptaplug cable, I think this is what you want.  If you're running some other type of cable, this is still the size that you want.  Hope that helps.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3780266
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: JD on February 09, 2010, 12:07:32 PM
I got ya justy.....   obviously the V2 end has a 4pin XLR style and the DVD "wally world" lithium battery has a barrel style type "B" plug.  Don't know if the type "B" is a universal code name....  but that's what Radio Shack calls that size in their "Adapta-Plug" series. 

Outer Diameter:        4.0mm
Inner Diameter :        1.7mm
Radio Shack part # :   273-1705

edit to add:  I think this is what you want.

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3780266

Thanks! I was just looking for that info myself.

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Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: jsfrank on March 15, 2010, 10:15:37 PM
So this is the Walmart 9v lithium?

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Ultralast-Lithium-Ion-Universal-Portable-DVD-Player-Replacement-Battery/9863775
Title: Re: power supply for V-2???
Post by: flipp on March 16, 2010, 01:01:04 AM
Label on it is different than any I have seen in the past but the specs are the same and the physical appearance is otherwise identical; however, the price has gone up $20 since the last time I saw one of those in WallyWorld. There is a thread around here somewhere about an ebay seller who has those for less than $20 shipped. I highly recommend going that route rather than waldoworld.