Topic: Final decision: SP-CMC-?

[Liquid Drum]

Standard cable is easy to stealth, save yourself $20.

[Arni99]

I had the leight-weight-cables cut at 1m10cm instead of standard 1m80cm(6 feet).
Never needed the extra 70cm.

[su6oxone]

This battery box should always be used, even when taping silent concerts.

 

[perks]

Why the BB over a SP 3 wire pre?

[Arni99]

Why the BB over a SP 3 wire pre?

because his budget is limited.

[su6oxone]

I had the leight-weight-cables cut at 1m10cm instead of standard 1m80cm(6 feet).
Never needed the extra 70cm.

This is a good point.  I also had my CMC-4 sent in for the low sens mod and asked them to chop off the cable to 4 ft.  They can definitely adjust them for you BEFORE they ship it to you since they have to cut the cables for the low sens mod anyway.

[nameloc01]

The cmc8s do not benefit from the low-sens mod. Save your money.

[Dede2002]

Well, I think this is it. I'll get a 943 pair. Based on what I`ve been reading, no low sens mod for me.
I love my HLSC-1 ( which can tape a jet engine taking off , no sweat), but I think the SP-CMC-8 provides a more robust bass. Not much, but more.
I do not tape ( and never will)  metal type music - or any other genre for that matter- in huge, large arenas. The sound is usually terrible. I usually go to small and medium size clubs ( electric blues, blues-rock, jazz, instrumental music in general). Granted, very loud music, but not mind freaking bass and kick drums.
You guys think I would be fine? 
Thanks very much in advance 

[Arni99]

Well, I think this is it. I'll get a 943 pair. Based on what I`ve been reading, no low sens mod for me.
I love my HLSC-1 ( which can tape a jet engine taking off , no sweat), but I think the SP-CMC-8 provides a more robust bass. Not much, but more.
I do not tape ( and never will)  metal type music - or any other genre for that matter- in huge, large arenas. The sound is usually terrible. I usually go to small and medium size clubs ( electric blues, blues-rock, jazz, instrumental music in general). Granted, very loud music, but not mind freaking bass and kick drums.
You guys think I would be fine? 
Thanks very much in advance 

Yes, for small jazz-clubs the low-sens-mod is not needed...otherwise(with the low sens mod) you would have problems using line-in of your R-09HR...without an external preamp.
Same happened to me with my former R09 and my dpa4061s....mic-in ok-signal but line-in.....even max. 30 gain resulted in peaks at max. -20 on the levelmeter at loud rockshows.
I even had my former HSLC mics distorted at big indoor arena shows with loads of SPL coming from the stacks(especially low-frequencies).

Thats why i use low-sens-mics only now .

[Dede2002]

Well, I think this is it. I'll get a 943 pair. Based on what I`ve been reading, no low sens mod for me.
I love my HLSC-1 ( which can tape a jet engine taking off , no sweat), but I think the SP-CMC-8 provides a more robust bass. Not much, but more.
I do not tape ( and never will)  metal type music - or any other genre for that matter- in huge, large arenas. The sound is usually terrible. I usually go to small and medium size clubs ( electric blues, blues-rock, jazz, instrumental music in general). Granted, very loud music, but not mind freaking bass and kick drums.
You guys think I would be fine? 
Thanks very much in advance 

Yes, for small jazz-clubs the low-sens-mod is not needed...otherwise(with the low sens mod) you would have problems using line-in of your R-09HR...without an external preamp.
Same happened to me with my former R09 and my dpa4061s....mic-in ok-signal but line-in.....even max. 30 gain resulted in peaks at max. -20 on the levelmeter at loud rockshows.
I even had my former HSLC mics distorted at big indoor arena shows with loads of SPL coming from the stacks(especially low-frequencies).

Thats why i use low-sens-mics only now .

Hey, my friend. Good talking to you. 
So, without an external preamp I'll have problems to achieve good levels running the low sens mod SP-CMC-8, right?
Is that what you're saying?

[Arni99]

Well, I think this is it. I'll get a 943 pair. Based on what I`ve been reading, no low sens mod for me.
I love my HLSC-1 ( which can tape a jet engine taking off , no sweat), but I think the SP-CMC-8 provides a more robust bass. Not much, but more.
I do not tape ( and never will)  metal type music - or any other genre for that matter- in huge, large arenas. The sound is usually terrible. I usually go to small and medium size clubs ( electric blues, blues-rock, jazz, instrumental music in general). Granted, very loud music, but not mind freaking bass and kick drums.
You guys think I would be fine? 
Thanks very much in advance 

Yes, for small jazz-clubs the low-sens-mod is not needed...otherwise(with the low sens mod) you would have problems using line-in of your R-09HR...without an external preamp.
Same happened to me with my former R09 and my dpa4061s....mic-in ok-signal but line-in.....even max. 30 gain resulted in peaks at max. -20 on the levelmeter at loud rockshows.
I even had my former HSLC mics distorted at big indoor arena shows with loads of SPL coming from the stacks(especially low-frequencies).

Thats why i use low-sens-mics only now .

Hey, my friend. Good talking to you. 
So, without an external preamp I'll have problems to achieve good levels running the low sens mod SP-CMC-8, right?
Is that what you're saying?

YES
NOT if you are using mic-in on your edirol , then low-sens modded mics are great aswell on the r09.

With standard sensitive sp-cmc-8(no low-sens mod) line-in is no problem on the r09.

[Mr.Scully]

Dede2002 - so do you think the SP-CMC-8 is better than MM-HLSC-1?

Arni99 - I've just browsed this forum a little more and Chris (CA) claims that his mod is NOT useful for the AT943 mics, in fact it can worsen the sound.

[Belexes]

Dede2002 - so do you think the SP-CMC-8 is better than MM-HLSC-1?

Just my opinion as I own both that I have preference for the MM-HLSC1's.  To me, the sound is more detailed and I honestly think the MM's give more bass response.

[Arni99]

Dede2002 - so do you think the SP-CMC-8 is better than MM-HLSC-1?

Arni99 - I've just browsed this forum a little more and Chris (CA) claims that his mod is NOT useful for the AT943 mics, in fact it can worsen the sound.

Thats what I meant yesterday when I said "some say yes and others no......" others reported distortion using the at943s.......
I had the sp-cmc-8 before and now have the low-sens modded version.
No difference in sound.

[Dede2002]

Dede2002 - so do you think the SP-CMC-8 is better than MM-HLSC-1?

Arni99 - I've just browsed this forum a little more and Chris (CA) claims that his mod is NOT useful for the AT943 mics, in fact it can worsen the sound.

Hard to tell. I don't have the SP-CMC-8. But I can tell you one thing about the HLSC-1: it sounds awesome to my ears. Like other  members said before, it`s very detailed and warm sounding ( I don't know if more detailed than the SP-CMC-8) . Maybe my pair has a problem right now. Latelly they are sounding tinny, thin and hollow. Maybe its a coincidence and/or bad luck with some venue acoustics. Maybe I got used with the sound of my MM-HLSO-micro (omni). To my ears, nothing beats a good omni pair under the correct conditions.
Anyway, I'm not that excited about the SP-CMC-8 anymore  . I'm not crazy about the idea of having a mic than might or might not perform OK depending of the SPL. In my exeprience, with a BB and running Line In, you only have distortion with the HLSC-! if you are taping a tornado  \ Anyway, I don't think I have too much card options being a stealth taper.