Topic: Marantz PMD-671 (24/96 capabilities)

[Rick]

I didn't see anything on this when I searched the forum....

The PMD-671 will supposedly be a PMD-670 with 24/96 capabilities. Not much info out there though. The only thing I could find was in German.

http://www.nf-concept.de/news.php?newsfid=11&newsid=14&sfid=&sid=1&sfinc=news_out&mfid=&mid=

If they can keep this under $1k (PMD-670 is $699), I could see this competing with the FR-2 and 722. Run this behind a V3/Mini-Me/modSBM-1 and it would be nice.

[MattD]

Using an online translator:

As a successor of the PMD670 Marantz presented the recorder PMD 671 for clay/tone master conference.
Like its predecessor the PMD 671 has adjustable
Samplingfrequenzen, USB connections and removable covers over the main control panel
and medium drive assembly, integrates, which were wished by users. Was added the admission with 24Bit/96 kHz and Mp3 compression of 384kbit/s. The quality of the MP3 files was thus again improved. The editing software PMD Edit permits the comfortable further processing at the PC.

[MattD]

Is this the holy grail? PMD 671 is now on Marantz's European site:

http://www.d-mpro.eu.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4321&CatID=18&SubCatID=169

A new flagship model for the Marantz Professional digital recording range, the PMD671 adds 96kHz/24 bit capability, shift time playback and read after write monitor (for confidence monitoring) to the list of features found on the popular PMD670

 
 
Highlights
Record directly to compact flash cards
Easy one touch record
Portable operation
No moving parts
MP3, MP2, WAV, BWF format compatible
Over 40 assignable quality settings
Security for switch setting and media (door)
16- 96KHz sample rate selection
16- 384 bit rate selection
Menu driven contact closure for remote operation:
Start- Pause/ Mark EDL / Unattended power up and record / Create new files
Digital input and output
Balanced XLR Mic input
Unbalance line in and out
48V phantom power
Read after write monitor
Shift time playback

[Rick]

Depends on the price. If its sub $1k, it might be for me.  For those who already have pre-amps and A/D they like it might be too.

[bhtoque]

Still no hard drive though.

I don't want to have a deck of flash cards for festivals.

JAson

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

Has anyone here used the 670?  If so, how does the front end sound?

[MattD]

Depends on the price. If its sub $1k, it might be for me.  For those who already have pre-amps and A/D they like it might be too.

If it's under $1k and I can work it out with a retailer here, I'd be willing to guinea pig this one. 8 GB of CF media (SanDisk Type II, for example) is available for under $700 now. For 2 channels of 24/96, you don't need the ridiculously fast media like you would for a digital SLR camera.

[F.O.Bean]

i really dont wanna deal w/ flas cards either

but if its the right price and you can get a few 5GB cards for decent, it may be worth it

im not paying a grand just to go 24 bit right now

[Rick]

you can get 4GB micro drive cards for $178. For non-stealthing, I would love to run MK4 > SX-M2 > PMD-671 (24/96)

[John Kelly]

Actually I like this.  I wouldn't mind to see some sort of HD mod, but if flash can drop low enough it'd be great.  Hell, no moving parts could be the best thing for taping.

I was very close to buying a PMD670 at one point, so I may end up with one of these, depending on the price...

[nic]

I had found 1 UK retailer with a posted price, but I'm hoping the price was a joke/incorrect:
9999.99pounds

[JasonSobel]

Actually I like this.  I wouldn't mind to see some sort of HD mod, but if flash can drop low enough it'd be great.  Hell, no moving parts could be the best thing for taping.

I agree, I think once flash catches up to our needs, it will be better than harddrives.  and in my mind, it's not a question of "if" higher capacities flash cards will drop in price, it's a matter of when.  prices are constantly dropping, and capacities are constantly increasing...

[F.O.Bean]

i am really liking this thing too, hmmm, wonder when it will hit the us tho

[John Kelly]

i am really liking this thing too, hmmm, wonder when it will hit the us tho

I doubt it'll take too long.  Way before flash comes down in price.

[F.O.Bean]

i am really liking this thing too, hmmm, wonder when it will hit the us tho

I doubt it'll take too long.  Way before flash comes down in price.

i always liked marantz products, i would love to run one of those, it wouldnt be the most festie friendly thing w/ the expensive flash cards, but id run it in p-burgh for smaller shows and whatnot

if price is similar to the 16/48 one, id snatch it up for myself for xmas prolly

how many hrs can ya get on a 4GB card doing 24/96?

[nic]

how many hrs can ya get on a 4GB card doing 24/96?

I believe that would be 2 hours

[John Kelly]

i am really liking this thing too, hmmm, wonder when it will hit the us tho

I doubt it'll take too long.  Way before flash comes down in price.

i always liked marantz products, i would love to run one of those, it wouldnt be the most festie friendly thing w/ the expensive flash cards, but id run it in p-burgh for smaller shows and whatnot

if price is similar to the 16/48 one, id snatch it up for myself for xmas prolly

how many hrs can ya get on a 4GB card doing 24/96?

2 hours on 4 gigs.  I'd probably expect it to be a little more than the 16/48 one, but not much.  Maybe $100 more?  Probably at half the cost of the FR-2 (plus half the size and the same features, go figure).  

I've seen the 670 in person and it's great.  It's basically a DAP1 without the tape.  

[Craig T]

how many hrs can ya get on a 4GB card doing 24/96?

about 2 hrs

[F.O.Bean]

thanks guys, so if running 24/28, i could even squeeze out maybe another 30 mins per 4GB card

hmmm, maybe by next summer i'll have one of these

[Rick]

thanks guys, so if running 24/28, i could even squeeze out maybe another 30 mins per 4GB card

hmmm, maybe by next summer i'll have one of these

you mean 24/48?

you should be able to get 125 min at 24/44 for 2GB... so i think it would be safe to say you can get 2.5-3 hours at 24/48 on a 4GB card.

[F.O.Bean]

+T rick

[MattD]

you should be able to get 125 min at 24/44 for 2GB... so i think it would be safe to say you can get 2.5-3 hours at 24/48 on a 4GB card.

You can get more than 2.5-3 hours. As posted before 24/96 stereo = about 2 GB/hour. 48 kHz is half the data rate of 96 kHz, so you'd get twice the amount of recording time, or about 4 hours.

[MattD]

Now it's no longer listed on Marantz's European pro site. *sigh*

[John Kelly]

Now it's no longer listed on Marantz's European pro site. *sigh*

And the old link to it returns a "permission denied" error.  Time to start the emailing.

[Rick]

This site:

http://www.midigital.de/product_info.php/products_id/1382?midigitalid=44b0376c14bb5e5a9fd56031bc400043/PC%20Hard-

List the PMD-671 at  1.149,00EUR (~$1,400), but they also list the PMD-671 at  944,00EUR (~$1,200) which list for $699 in the US.

[JackoRoses]

Now it's no longer listed on Marantz's European pro site. *sigh*

And the old link to it returns a "permission denied" error.  Time to start the emailing.

I just did a search on the european website and this link came up
http://www.d-mpro.eu.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4551&Tab=Data+Sheet
looking sexy still would like to see a price and ETA

[MattD]

If that's true, there's some bad news on that page. It maxes out at 24/48 via the digital input. I guess the 24/96 is only via the analog ins.

[John Kelly]

If that's true, there's some bad news on that page. It maxes out at 24/48 via the digital input. I guess the 24/96 is only via the analog ins.

I'm really hoping that's a typo. 

[JasonSobel]

If that's true, there's some bad news on that page. It maxes out at 24/48 via the digital input. I guess the 24/96 is only via the analog ins.

I'm really hoping that's a typo. 

I don't get the impression that it's a typo, because it written twice on that page.

In any case, I've emailed (gotten a repsonse) from a "Tech Support Supervisor" at Marantz.  My first email was if this product was ever actually going to come out, because there was very little info on the web about it...

on Feb 8, I got this:

Hi Jason,
       The PMD671 will be a reality.  I don't have a date of release yet,
but keep checking the website.  Specs will be on the site when the unit is
closer to release.

Bill Loulousis
Tech Support Supervisor
D&M Professional
(630) 741-0322 - Direct
(866) 405-2154 - Toll Free
www.d-mpro.com

I just emailed him back directly, asking about the 48kHz limit on the digital input, if it was a typo or not, if I was reading the specs correctly, why Marantz would do that, etc, etc I also asked if he had any more info about when it might be released in the US.   I'll post here if I get any more info about it...

[JasonSobel]

I just got this email in, hopefully this doesn't mean that it's a year or two away.  Although at least the possibillity still exists for 24/96 on the digital in.

HI Jason,
       Don't believe any specs you read right now.  Europe has a habit of
releasing very preliminary, very incorrect specifications.

Bill Loulousis
Tech Support Supervisor
D&M Professional
(630) 741-0322 - Direct
(866) 405-2154 - Toll Free
www.d-mpro.com

Do you think he's talking about the Eurpean division of their company, or does all of Europe have a habit of releasing preliminary specs? 

[John Kelly]

I just got this email in, hopefully this doesn't mean that it's a year or two away.  Although at least the possibillity still exists for 24/96 on the digital in.

HI Jason,
       Don't believe any specs you read right now.  Europe has a habit of
releasing very preliminary, very incorrect specifications.

Bill Loulousis
Tech Support Supervisor
D&M Professional
(630) 741-0322 - Direct
(866) 405-2154 - Toll Free
www.d-mpro.com

Do you think he's talking about the Eurpean division of their company, or does all of Europe have a habit of releasing preliminary specs? 

Well that looks like a denial of the specs to me, so hopefully he means something like "yeah europe published something from 6 months ago and they're wrong."  In any case, this is probably good news.

+T for getting in touch with them