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Offline detroit lightning

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V3 -> MT2496
« on: October 18, 2005, 08:54:00 PM »
Anyone have experience with this yet?  I know there has been a few issues w/ the digi in @ 24bit?

also - stupid question (it's actually my friends' V3, which i've never used)

whats the best connection option for v3 -> MT?  I'm assuming V3 has a coax out? 
also, could we run a separate dat line from the v3 as well - or would we have to patch out of the mt?  (and what happens if the MT is recording in 24 bit?

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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2005, 09:03:09 PM »
what ive done is this:
from cascade, I purchased a $9 hosa spdif cable (so its the right size etc.)
this could come straight out of the v3 to the mt

but what I do is run my 7pin digi out of the v3, on the out line of the cable, I put a splitter type thing on it, and run the hosa cable out of it so I run both my m1 and mt at the same time y0!
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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2005, 09:44:01 PM »
The V3 has 3 digi outs, 1 s/pdif, 1 consumer AES, and 1 pro AES. The MT can take a signal from all of them, but you'll need an impedence transformer such as the Canare BCJ-XJ-TRB to use the AES jacks. You'll also need a BNC adapter so you can then attach a coax cable to it. Get 2 of these and you'll have 3 digi outs available.

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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2005, 09:53:19 PM »
There are many of us here who are running V3 > MicroTrack.

With the latest firmware (v1.1.5-BETA), the MicroTrack will record at 24 bit via the S/PDIF input, although only at 48 kHz.  24bit, 96 kHz is coming soon, hopefully.

as has been mentioned, the V3 has many digital outputs.  but you can't send both a 16 bit signal and a 24 bit signal.  all the digital outputs are either 24 bit or 16 bit.  you can send a 24 bit, 48 kHz digital signal to a DAT deck, and it'll truncate the 8 least significant digits, and only record 16 bit, 48 kHz.  truncating probably isn't the best way to run a DAT back-up.  if I were you, I'd run analog out of the V3 into your DAT deck line-in.  although your DAT deck probably doesn't have as good of an A/D, you are still taking advantage of the wonderful pre-amp of the V3, and you won't have small digital artifacts left in the recording from the truncated signal.

that's the short answer.  search around a little, and you'll find PLENTY of information.  this has been covered a lot in the past.

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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2005, 10:06:58 PM »
fwiw. i ran a jb3 as a backup to my usbpre>lappy. i did just as jason says, analog out of usbpre>line in of jb3. yes it was truncated, but if solely using it as a backup its not a bad thing. god forbid youd have to splice the 16 bit copy to make a 24bit complete. it is not ideal, but its doable and listenable. ymmv.
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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2005, 10:08:53 PM »
fwiw. i ran a jb3 as a backup to my usbpre>lappy. i did just as jason says, analog out of usbpre>line in of jb3. yes it was truncated, but if solely using it as a backup its not a bad thing. god forbid youd have to splice the 16 bit copy to make a 24bit complete. it is not ideal, but its doable and listenable. ymmv.

if you ran analog out of the usb pre>jb3, then there is no truncating going on, now if you ran the v3 at 24-bit and sent that signal to the mT and the same digi signal to the jb3, THEN the jb3 copy would be truncated
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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2005, 01:20:57 AM »
I have run the V3>MT 2 times @ 24 bit with no problem.
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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2005, 04:25:46 PM »
btw if you have a 2 ended 7 pin you can just run v3 > m1 > mt if you want- im doing essentially that on friday.

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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2005, 11:10:01 PM »
V3 digi>MT can give you flipped channels.
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=52058.0


I ran my D8 as a backup to the MT last week, taking the AES1 out of the V3 to the MT at 24/44.1 using an adapter cable from Leegeddy. No impedance transformer but it seemed to work fine.

Took the V3 SPDIF out to the D8, truncating down to 16 bit. I have to say that it sounded fine on a casual listen, didn't compare to the 24 bit file, but I would have to say IMHO that the truncated tape is totally listenable, there was nothing obvious like glitches/pops/distortion/diginoise on the DAT.

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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2005, 04:28:09 AM »
V3 digi>MT can give you flipped channels.
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=52058.0
I have to say that it sounded fine on a casual listen, didn't compare to the 24 bit file, but I would have to say IMHO that the truncated tape is totally listenable, there was nothing obvious like glitches/pops/distortion/diginoise on the DAT.



thats great news ;D lemme know whatcha think of the truncated tape on the d-8 bud!

if i get the pmd-671 or this, i woulkd still like to have a listenable jb3 around for after shows, car ride, etc anyway, so that could def be a great thing, i dont think ive ever heard a truncated tape, at least that i knew of
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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2005, 06:01:34 PM »
Every time i done a 24 bit recording (many times) I've allways done a  truncated (from a 24 bit digital signal) to my JB3 for the car ride home and it sounds good,  not something I would recomend for archiving or distribution,  but for the ride home or backup in case of emergency it sounds ok.
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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2005, 10:21:50 PM »
would it make sense to run V3 (analog out) -> sbm1 -> d100, to take advantage of the sbm1 a/d?

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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2005, 10:33:01 PM »
would it make sense to run V3 (analog out) -> sbm1 -> d100, to take advantage of the sbm1 a/d?

youd be limited to 16-bith tho
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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2005, 10:36:34 PM »
would it make sense to run V3 (analog out) -> sbm1 -> d100, to take advantage of the sbm1 a/d?

youd be limited to 16-bith tho

its going to a D100 anyways...


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Re: V3 -> MT2496
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2005, 10:40:38 PM »
would it make sense to run V3 (analog out) -> sbm1 -> d100, to take advantage of the sbm1 a/d?

sure it would make sense.. the sbm process of the sbm1 is different sounding a>d stage than the 24>16ansr of the v3..  the sbm will be fluid and slightly dark, while the ansr is a bit brighter and more accurate..  I like both, but I run the ansr..
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