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Offline SparkE!

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Re: Mo' bass from my mics
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2006, 05:48:44 PM »
thanks for the advice.  looks like i need new mics... ;D

i do have omni caps.  would a DIY j-disc help?  might as well try.

thanks again.

Yes, j-disc or otherwise baffled omnis will get you more bass than you get with cardiods.  I sometimes run cardiods in the ORTF configuration and mix with baffled omnis to improve the bass response.    The ORTF cardiods give a wide stereo image and the baffled omnis give the better bass response.  The baffle I use is homemade and results in the same 17 cm spacing as the ORTF setup, so both sets of mics get the same delay between channels for off axis sounds.  That way, your omnis don't mess up the stereo image produced by your ORTF cardiods when you mix the signals from both sets of mics.  Also by using the same spacing for baffled omnis as you do for your ORTF mics, you don't get instruments that seem to move around, depending on what note they are playing.  If you run straight baffled omnis, it's been my experience that the stereo image is not as wide as you get with ORTF cardiods.
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Re: Mo' bass from my mics
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2006, 10:34:14 PM »
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Re: Mo' bass from my mics
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2006, 11:44:25 PM »
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try tucking the mics tighter to the disc face,... it'll "widen" the sound out more for you.

this isn't speaking to your timing or phase issue of 4 mics mixed, but rather, as a solo stereo disc recording.

Yeah, thanks Moke, but the ones I'm running are actually set up like boundary mics, mounted flush with the surface of the baffle.  I think that the issue is that the faces of the baffle point in directions that are only 110 degrees apart, rather than at 180 degrees apart like a jdisk.  The whole idea was to create an ORTF-like signal that has some bass in it.  I get a good bass signal, but there is less separation in the channels than on a jdisk setup because the faces of the baffle are both faced partially forward, not straight to the sides.

You are right that with a normal jdisk, you can widen the image by mounting the mics closer to the disk.
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