well, I used the lucid 96/24 dac for awhile as it was popular, and it produced what I wanted at the time, which was just any dac, as I developed a taste for what sounds I liked I have listened to a few more and sold my lucid in exchange for no dac, Craig's CAL DAC is very tempting yet I dunno if I can come up with the money. After hearing good reviews from Moke I went and listened to this and enjoyed it, I auditioned it behind my playback and was wowed, like the lucid never did. Just a whole nother level. If you are looking for a good used one, I would go for that one.