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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2009, 06:30:57 PM »
I am with Gunnar on sampling rate.  After the files are edited down to 44.1 I doubt very much that it is possible to determine which was recorded at a sampling rate some multiple of 44.1 and actually at 44.1.  I am talking a ABX test, not an "I sure can hear the difference" when you know which file is which.  It also saves the errors from resampling.  I have read that serious professionals claim to be able to hear differences when played back at the original sampling rate, but almost all of them, if not all, agree that after re-sampling down to 44.1 they can no longer hear the difference.  But, after all, what could they know?

Having said that, I am going to just record at 44.1 for now on.  It saves the battery for those long sessions.  And as SD points out themselves, who needs the higher sampling rates just to encode a few octaves of silence?  This is what the manufacturer asks.  As usual, YMMV       8)
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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2009, 10:05:27 PM »
I use 96 for no real reason.  If there is an audible difference, I certainly don't currently have a home system that would reveal it, although I'd like to change that.

I don't know.  Posterity maybe? 

Storage is cheap these days, and the biggest gig I do is the Christmas Jam, which I can easily manage in  terms of juice and hard drive.

Smaller files are certainly easier and quicker to work with.
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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 11:34:49 PM »
I have been running at 24/44.1k for about 9 months now AGAIN, and MUCH PREFER it to 48kHz or any higher SR's ;) I did run 24/48kHz for all 3 nites of Phish, but ONLY did that in case I BT'd the 24bit stuff it is easier to burn DVD-A's w/, compared to DVD-V's, which can be ANY SR ;)

I LOVE just adding gain/saving/dithering, and cutting out resampling altogether :) I know it only takes about 5-10 mins per 2hr or so set to resample to 44.1kHz, but I still LOVE justa dding gain/saving/dithering :)
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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2009, 12:17:42 PM »
A couple questions: How much space does an hour of stereo wave take up at 24 bit/192KHZ?  Can 192K wavs be converted to FLAC?  And, what's the biggest CF card one can get these days? 

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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2009, 12:22:21 PM »
A couple questions: How much space does an hour of stereo wave take up at 24 bit/192KHZ?  Can 192K wavs be converted to FLAC?  And, what's the biggest CF card one can get these days?

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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2009, 12:52:49 PM »
are the LED's fixed for free?

i have an LED that never worked.  The first time I ever powered it up, it was dead

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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2009, 12:57:51 PM »
I did run 24/48kHz for all 3 nites of Phish, but ONLY did that in case I BT'd the 24bit stuff it is easier to burn DVD-A's w/, compared to DVD-V's, which can be ANY SR ;)

just to clarify, DVD-Audio discs (DVD-A) can be burned with just about any sample rate (44.1, 48, 88.2, 96, 176.4, 192), while the DVD-Video format (DVD-V) specifies that PCM data must be either 48kHz or 96kHz.

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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2009, 03:11:39 PM »
A couple questions: How much space does an hour of stereo wave take up at 24 bit/192KHZ?  Can 192K wavs be converted to FLAC?  And, what's the biggest CF card one can get these days? 


1 hour of 2 channel 24/192 = 4GB

Pretec makes 64GB and 100GB cards, although I've never seen the 100GB for sale.  Here is the 64GB card:

http://www.ptiglobalusa.com/pr64gbcfca23.html

More common and less expensive are the 32GB cards, which can be had for about $60 for a Kingston 32GB card.  I would not use the low cost Kingston 32GB to record 24/192 however.  For that matter, I would not record 24/192 at all, unless I was doing bat research.

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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2009, 03:21:35 PM »
are the LED's fixed for free?

i have an LED that never worked.  The first time I ever powered it up, it was dead

Sure, they're fixed for free; if the box is still under warranty.  Otherwise, expect to pay a lot.  There was a thread about the cost of Sound Devices factory service a while back (which I'm too lazy to find the link) and if I remember the number was about $200/hour.

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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2009, 09:13:35 PM »
well I only had my 722 for 11 days and finally took it out of the house to go do phish in hampton
and sometime between the 1st night and 2nd I had 2 LED's go out as stated earlier in the thread.  >:(
after quite a few phone calls and being put off for a over a week to get an RA# and call tag to send
it in for warranty repair it has been determined that my unit needs replaced.  :o

I got word this afternoon that the box has"a few major issues"and they are going to send me a new
one.this wouldn't be so bad excpet for the fact that all my hampton files are still on my box in raw
form and they don't know if I will be able to get those back from them or not.

I got to tell you I'm REAL close to pulling my p1 out of the closet and telling them to give me a refund.



and it's $125hr for those wondering about labor.
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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2009, 01:27:50 AM »
$125 an hour sounds about right to me for an electronic tech to do bench work.

Most mom and pop auto garages around me are getting near that. Hell, I went into a vacuum cleaner repair store today to get some belts and the posted labor rate was $80 an hour.
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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2009, 09:25:14 AM »
this wouldn't be so bad excpet for the fact that all my hampton files are still on my box in raw form and they don't know if I will be able to get those back from them or not.

You did copy them to your computer before sending it back for service, didn't you?
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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2009, 07:12:19 PM »
have 3/7 and 3/8 but not the 1st night  :(
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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2009, 03:48:18 PM »
have 3/7 and 3/8 but not the 1st night  :(

BUMMER :(
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Re: Just got my 722....
« Reply #29 on: April 08, 2009, 11:53:12 PM »
For The Record: never, ever send a recorder anywhere before you copy off ALL the files, even the ones you do not want.  There is no guarantee you will ever see those files on the recorder again.
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