Topic: Shockmounts...

[macroint]

Please excuse my ignorance...only been taping a few months and I've led a sheltered life.

When I bought my Studio Projects C4's, they came with a pair of shockmounts...for those familiar, are these the same mounts (circumference-wise): http://www.micsupply.com/schoepsstereoset.htm 
I like Mic Supply and figure they'll get it to me fastest (hoping next day). Or can you buy them in a walk-in store?

I was setting up for Ekoostic Hooka last night and snapped the head off one of the mounts...taped it together, in a retarded way, but with the mic not facing the direction I wanted (if I weren't in a rush I could have reversed the t-bar and it would have been better).

[nickgregory]

no, they are not...thye look similar but the schoeps mounts are smaller and more expensive (~$60 per)...go to team studio projects in the team board section...I believe someone posted a like to studio projects web page to get these directly...

[Nick's Picks]

call me crazy...
but given the noise floor of the average "jam band" taping environment...I think one could VERY safely get away w/o using shock mounts at all...and never hear a difference.

[creekfreak]

call me crazy...
but given the noise floor of the average "jam band" taping environment...I think one could VERY safely get away w/o using shock mounts at all...and never hear a difference.

I would tend to agree with Nick, but if a bunch of spun wooks start bumping into your stand, then you will hear it

[JackoRoses]

I took the condom theory myself with shockmounts and windscreens.
Might as well use it if you have it. Better to have protection
in case of ? then not to use it and ruin the show.
Of course it is just a show and not a major responsibility like a child

[Chuck]

call me crazy...
but given the noise floor of the average "jam band" taping environment...I think one could VERY safely get away w/o using shock mounts at all...and never hear a difference.

I've always thought this privately, but I use them anyway.

[macroint]

call me crazy...
but given the noise floor of the average "jam band" taping environment...I think one could VERY safely get away w/o using shock mounts at all...and never hear a difference.

Again, excuse the ignorance, I'm still at the stage where you fly by the seat of your pants, so my knowledge in this area (among many) is somewhat limited by what I've learned so far: without the shockmounts, all I have is the microphone connected to the xlr's and they don't balance on their ends too well. I need the shockmounts, or something else, so I can clamp the mic on a rail. In my time of need, I've been thinking about alternatives to the mount: would it work to have a square piece of foam, hollowed out for the mic and taped to a ledge (99% of the shows I tape are at one venue, with one foot metal ledge on the opposite side of a balconey rail)?

[leegeddy]

call me crazy...
but given the noise floor of the average "jam band" taping environment...I think one could VERY safely get away w/o using shock mounts at all...and never hear a difference.

Again, excuse the ignorance, I'm still at the stage where you fly by the seat of your pants, so my knowledge in this area (among many) is somewhat limited by what I've learned so far: without the shockmounts, all I have is the microphone connected to the xlr's and they don't balance on their ends too well. I need the shockmounts, or something else, so I can clamp the mic on a rail. In my time of need, I've been thinking about alternatives to the mount: would it work to have a square piece of foam, hollowed out for the mic and taped to a ledge (99% of the shows I tape are at one venue, with one foot metal ledge on the opposite side of a balconey rail)?

sounds like you could do with mic clips for what you do. if you have a local Guitar Center or equivalent, you could save yourself some $$ and buy some type of mic clips.

marc

[nickgregory]

While I agree that on a stand, shockmounts can be overkill for what we tape...if you are clamping to a part of the venue, shockmounts are a necessity...especially if it is a balcony, lighting tressel, those types of things

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

I used to run CM300s from the raised floor in the balcony of the bayou in DC.  I could touch the stand and feel the bass transfered from the raised floor.  Immediately after I got suspension mounts, I noticed that the recored bass seemed to be tighter.  I always attributed that to the isolation.  Also I've been at several shows where due to weather or crowd issues, I had to move my rig while rolling tape.  In those cases, there was no handling noise on the tapes.  YMMV.  I always use the shock mounts.

[Tall Adam]

DONT SPEND ANY MONEY!!!!

email alan hyatt of PMI audio, he will send you a pair of replacement shockmounts FREE!!!

Alan kicks serious ass and shows that PMI is dedicated to standing behind the studio projects name and will support his product!

are these the first run of shocks or the second (do the elastics cross on top of the clip? if yes, then second, if no, then first)...if its the first run, they were pretty flimsy by comparison to the second run...also if worse comes to absolute worst, and alan wont send you free ones, i have a pair of older ones which are beat up but i dont use anymore (because alan sent me free ones), so id send them to you free and you could either use them, or use the parts you need.

[F.O.Bean]

call me crazy...
but given the noise floor of the average "jam band" taping environment...I think one could VERY safely get away w/o using shock mounts at all...and never hear a difference.

EDIT:

i totally disagree 100%

before getting my shocks a few years ago, the 480 would pick up A TON of unwanted rubmle and wahtnot, i would NEVER run w/ out shocks again unless i completetly had to

[admkrk]

i would NEVER run w/ shocks again unless i completetly had to

 

[F.O.Bean]

i would NEVER run w/ shocks again unless i completetly had to

 

thanks for picking up my mistake

[admkrk]

i would NEVER run w/ shocks again unless i completetly had to

 

thanks for picking up my mistake

just beeing an ass