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Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« on: January 30, 2005, 05:04:02 PM »
Any schoeps card-caps w/active heads users ever have any experience using something other than a kwonbar on a stand?  It doesn't seem to be a very versatile device...(what if I had to/wanted to try running in XY, for example)...

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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2005, 05:58:11 PM »
I have 3 bars:  NOS (Kwon), DIN (Kwon), ORTF (Schoeps), and thinking about adding a fourth (DINA, Kwon).

If you don't wanna mess with different Kwon bars, pick up a Vark bar to slot into a single shockmount and add a pair of SGC clips.  Not enough spacing to run NOS, but'll handle coincident / near-coincident techniques and allow you to adjust your angles to preference.
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2005, 08:45:01 PM »
there is also the schoeps stereo bar which can be used to run pretty much any config, but it's pricey. I love the KWON bars, makes things sooo easy when setting up with actives.

http://www.posthorn.com/S_ums20.html

If I ran more than the mk41's I would consider getting one.
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2005, 09:03:28 PM »
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on January 30, 2005, 05:58:11 PM
I have 3 bars: NOS (Kwon), DIN (Kwon), ORTF (Schoeps), and thinking about adding a fourth (DINA, Kwon).

If you don't wanna mess with different Kwon bars, pick up a Vark bar to slot into a single shockmount and add a pair of SGC clips. Not enough spacing to run NOS, but'll handle coincident / near-coincident techniques and allow you to adjust your angles to preference.

what Brian said... the Vark bar is very similiar to the schoeps bar but *much* cheaper. The schoeps bar does have the angles on it though....
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2005, 01:52:53 AM »
Quote from: creekfreak on January 30, 2005, 08:45:01 PM
there is also the schoeps stereo bar which can be used to run pretty much any config, but it's pricey. I love the KWON bars, makes things sooo easy when setting up with actives.

http://www.posthorn.com/S_ums20.html

If I ran more than the mk41's I would consider getting one.

thats what id run if i had the actives :) that is if i had any money leftover :)
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2005, 11:11:39 AM »
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on January 30, 2005, 05:58:11 PM
I have 3 bars:  NOS (Kwon), DIN (Kwon), ORTF (Schoeps), and thinking about adding a fourth (DINA, Kwon).

If you don't wanna mess with different Kwon bars, pick up a Vark bar to slot into a single shockmount and add a pair of SGC clips.  Not enough spacing to run NOS, but'll handle coincident / near-coincident techniques and allow you to adjust your angles to preference.

exactly what I was looking for, thanks :)
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 07:47:57 PM »
I've got the DIN kwonbar and the vark bar. I love both of them. the vark bar i use for A/B and XY. the vark bar fits nicely in the schoeps shockmount.

Hey Brain, when do you use NOS?
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2005, 08:50:46 PM »
nos is great for mk21's...
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2005, 09:26:02 PM »
Quote from: Rick on January 31, 2005, 07:47:57 PM
Hey Brain, when do you use NOS?

Before I got my MK21s, I ran MK4s NOS in nice sounding venues when way up front.  Now, if I'm that close and in a nice room, I run my MK21s NOS.  Not enough nice sounding rooms around, though...but love the results when I'm able to run that setup.
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2005, 10:11:33 PM »
what about running cards outside NOS?  especially if you are way FOB...does that leave a hole in the middle?
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2005, 10:15:34 PM »
Quote from: nickgregory on January 31, 2005, 10:11:33 PM
what about running cards outside NOS? especially if you are way FOB...does that leave a hole in the middle?

I've run cards NOS  FOB indoors and outdoors, both with good results - no hole in the middle.  I can see how if you're waaaaay FOB and the stacks are split pretty wide you might get a hole in the middle, but...haven't had that happen to me, yet.
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2005, 10:18:13 PM »
Quote from: Brian Skalinder on January 31, 2005, 10:15:34 PM
I've run cards NOS FOB indoors and outdoors, both with good results - no hole in the middle. I can see how if you're waaaaay FOB and the stacks are split pretty wide you might get a hole in the middle, but...haven't had that happen to me, yet.

great, thanks!  I actually bought 3 kwon bars a month or so back used (DIN, DINA and NOS) for when I get my MG active setup and was curious when I would use the NOS bar....but got a good deal and bought all three...now hopefully the JK setup will fit em, without a significant impact to angles/spacing....
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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2005, 02:13:51 AM »
http://www.schoeps.de/E-2004/ums20.html

Colored dots, multiple config's, angles, etc.

It comes with an adapter, so you can put it in an A20s.

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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2005, 09:19:00 AM »
Quote from: sideshowbob on February 01, 2005, 02:13:51 AM
http://www.schoeps.de/E-2004/ums20.html

Colored dots, multiple config's, angles, etc.

It comes with an adapter, so you can put it in an A20s.

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Re: Schoeps & Actives users, tbar & shockmount
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2005, 01:10:54 PM »
Quote from: crimson on February 01, 2005, 09:19:00 AM
but I dont have CMC bodies :)

what difference does that make?
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