by the way, for those interested in maggies for a stereo setup i believe mine might be coming up for sale soon. reason being i was going to have to wait a LONG time for Magnepan to get me a center channel and rears, so I've kind of put my maggie ideas on the backburner and decided I'm going with some different speakers. Also, finding surround amps that push the kind of power they need at 4ohms wasnt so great to me either. Finally, the inability to biamp my 10.1qr's was not all that much to my liking. A great set of speakers, however, just not quite right for my purposes at this time.