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Title: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: jnorman34 on January 02, 2005, 03:28:51 PM
i am currently running a quite high-end, but not very portable setup for the chamber music i do.  i have pairs of DPA 4006s (omnis), DPA 4011s, AKG c481s, AT4051s, and DPA 4061s, with 8 channels of millennia media HV3 preamps, into a roland vs1880.  in the past, i have also owned pairs of tlm103s, km184s, royer r-121s, rode NTKs, gefell m300s, and many others.  i think out of all themics i have used, i sort of like the akg c481s the best - i can literally use them on anything in almost any kind of situation, though i also like the sound of the DPA omnis - a more spacious and lush sound, though they dont image quite as well as ORTF cards.  however, blumlein ribbons are often wonderful for chamber music in many situations hwere condensers can come across as sort of too crispy, even harsh, for strings and woodwinds.  i am considering dropping abunch of my current gear in favor of a nice portable 2 channel system, and may move back to a blumlein ribbon setup like the royer sf12, or maybe a akg c426b.

so, a couple of questions for you guys who have used every preamp, converter, and mic known to mankind:

1.  what would be your absolute dream 2-channel setup - mics, pres, converters, recorder?
2.  are there any of the portable 2 channel preamps that can handle ribbons effectively?  maybe the sonosax?  others?

thanks.
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 02, 2005, 03:57:53 PM
48x>v3>24 bit recorder
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: John Kelly on January 02, 2005, 04:53:32 PM
Money is no object?  Probably that SPA modified AKG c33e that Chris runs > V3 > SD744t

And as for your second question, that same Chris used to run the Royer SF-12 ribbon mic, so he might be able to help you with that (VA_TAPER is his name on here).
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 02, 2005, 05:18:07 PM
Money is no object? Probably that SPA modified AKG c33e that Chris runs > V3 > SD744t

And as for your second question, that same Chris used to run the Royer SF-12 ribbon mic, so he might be able to help you with that (VA_TAPER is his name on here).

why a 744 tho, you only have 2 channels recording? maybe for a matrix? damn that would be suite :)
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: John Kelly on January 02, 2005, 05:41:34 PM
Money is no object? Probably that SPA modified AKG c33e that Chris runs > V3 > SD744t

And as for your second question, that same Chris used to run the Royer SF-12 ribbon mic, so he might be able to help you with that (VA_TAPER is his name on here).

why a 744 tho, you only have 2 channels recording? maybe for a matrix? damn that would be suite :)

Never know when you're gonna want to get that sbd recorded too. ;)
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: creekfreak on January 02, 2005, 07:05:51 PM
would love to play with the Gefell UM900 LD mics..those things look sooo sweet, run those into my V3 and then into say a SD744 and I would be happy.  ;D
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 02, 2005, 07:24:26 PM
would love to play with the Gefell UM900 LD mics..those things look sooo sweet, run those into my V3 and then into say a SD744 and I would be happy. ;D

mmm, those are yummy :)

i always loved the umt8000 i believe itis, its a 5-polar pattern LD also, w/ phantom :)
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: creekfreak on January 02, 2005, 09:42:55 PM
UM900 are phantom powered tube LD mics...hence the reason I want to check them out
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: F.O.Bean on January 02, 2005, 09:55:30 PM
UM900 are phantom powered tube LD mics...hence the reason I want to check them out

theyre just soooo damn expensive ya know :'(
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: creekfreak on January 02, 2005, 10:54:48 PM
yes, they are damn expensive, about $4k each is the best price I have seen around.... :'(
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: John R on January 02, 2005, 11:39:55 PM
mics old:   Neumann  U87
                 AKG C61

Mics new:  Neumann Solution D
                 Neumann M149
                 AKG C 414 B-XLS
                 Gefell UM 900
                 DPA 4041-T2
                 DPA 4011

Cables:      AM EXCALIBUR

Pre:           V3 Optical
                 V4

Recording Device:  744t
                               Cantar-X
                               Deva

Misc:   Grace M902
           Apogee Rosetta 200
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: wbrisette on January 03, 2005, 04:31:38 AM

Recording Device:  744t
                               Cantar-X
                               Diva

FYI, it's DEVA, although it's pronouced Diva...   :P

Also for what it's worth, you don't need a pre-amp with the Cantar or DEVA, 744T I don't know, but my understanding is the basic design internally is similar to their 442, so you probably wouldn't need it for the 744T either.

My Dream rig?

Old Mics:
EW SR-77
EW QTC-1

New Mics:
EW QTC-1
DPA 4011

Old Recording Device:
DEVA IV

New:
DEVA IV

That's about all I would switch for my dream system. I won't ever run 2 mics again unless it's absolutely necessary, I'm always going to run an omni in there somewhere.

Wayne

Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: momule on January 03, 2005, 07:08:36 AM
 my semi low pro" dream rig".

Mg 200>AM EXCALIBUR>744
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: John R on January 03, 2005, 08:54:42 AM
Wayne, thanks for the correct spellling for the deva.  i know none of the devices need a pre per se, but it would be fun to have all the gear on the list. 
Nice to have the option for that omni.

jr



Recording Device:  744t
                               Cantar-X
                               Diva

FYI, it's DEVA, although it's pronouced Diva...   :P

Also for what it's worth, you don't need a pre-amp with the Cantar or DEVA, 744T I don't know, but my understanding is the basic design internally is similar to their 442, so you probably wouldn't need it for the 744T either.

My Dream rig?

Old Mics:
EW SR-77
EW QTC-1

New Mics:
EW QTC-1



DPA 4011

Old Recording Device:
DEVA IV

New:
DEVA IV

That's about all I would switch for my dream system. I won't ever run 2 mics again unless it's absolutely necessary, I'm always going to run an omni in there somewhere.

Wayne


Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: wbrisette on January 03, 2005, 10:56:03 AM
Wayne, thanks for the correct spellling for the deva.  i know none of the devices need a pre per se, but it would be fun to have all the gear on the list. 
Nice to have the option for that omni.

The DEVA and Cantar give you multiple mic inputs, so you really don't need the pre. The 744T if you want more than 2 microphones, you will need a pre, since you have 4 inputs, but only two are phantom powered mic inputs, the other two are line inputs.

Wayne
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: marc0789 on January 03, 2005, 04:13:04 PM
dpa 4022>oade m148>apogee ad1k>hhb portadat.
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: Brian on January 03, 2005, 04:29:32 PM
dpa 4022>oade m148>apogee ad1k>hhb portadat.

he's taping acoustic music....not panic fob :P :D ;) ;D

well you already ahve the 4006's soooo......

4006's or the Sonador omnis > Gordon Mic Pre > Nagra V

edit: i also really like the Neumann AK130 omnis as well
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: marc0789 on January 03, 2005, 04:50:25 PM
dpa 4022>oade m148>apogee ad1k>hhb portadat.

he's taping acoustic music....not panic fob :P :D ;) ;D

well you already ahve the 4006's soooo......

4006's or the Sonador omnis > Gordon Mic Pre > Nagra V

edit: i also really like the Neumann AK130 omnis as well


no matter what you tape.....the perfect rig for all music. ;)
Title: Re: what would be your dream kit?
Post by: Brian on January 03, 2005, 04:54:48 PM
:D ;D