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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2004, 06:59:00 PM »
Then they returned to there conversation about how excited they were that Duran Duran was back together........and this was at Drew Emmit Band!?!?!

For most people, concerts are not musical events, Charles - they're social events.  Why anyone would want to spend $10-$30 per person on tix and buy outrageously priced drinks so they can yell AT their friends for 2-3 hours is beyond me.  But what do I know...
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2004, 07:30:54 PM »
Yeah, I know most people view concerts as social events. There is a factor here though that compounds my confusion. This venue is a very very nice small theater and the bar is outside. And I don't mean the theater's bar is outside...it's actually a seperate place. Plus we're talking about Bluegrass here....not exactly a mainstream music your everyday listener would care to hear live. Of course there are the neo-hippies who go and drink beer in their new Mountain Hardware jackets and Kavu visors and talk loudly....just so they can tell people they were there. But hell, I can bitch and moan all day long...I have no control over what other people choose to do.......
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2004, 07:36:27 PM »
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Of course there are the neo-hippies who go and drink beer in their new Mountain Hardware jackets and Kavu visors and talk loudly

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I know the type, they make up most of this state :P
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2004, 07:39:28 PM »
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Of course there are the neo-hippies who go and drink beer in their new Mountain Hardware jackets and Kavu visors and talk loudly

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I know the type, they make up most of this state :P

are you one of em tim :)
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2004, 07:46:07 PM »
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Of course there are the neo-hippies who go and drink beer in their new Mountain Hardware jackets and Kavu visors and talk loudly

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I know the type, they make up most of this state :P

are you one of em tim :)

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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2004, 08:31:22 PM »
at least hes drinkin a fat tire brian ;D

ummm, where is that and what the hell is going on :P

tim just passed on the hoola-hoop ehh?
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2004, 08:35:14 PM »
it's an older pic of timmay.  he was harshing the hoopers mellow and flow by getting in the way.  he's being pushed aside by a fellow hooper-w00k.  i think it was from a cervantes post SCI show concert. something like that.

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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2004, 08:37:32 PM »
Re Tim's pic:

Since we met this past July, Tim - and depending on the date of that picture - you've either [1] cleaned up quite a bit, or [2] taken a turn for the worse!  :P
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2004, 10:50:17 PM »
Bean, you know what I look like :P

it's an older pic of timmay.  he was harshing the hoopers mellow and flow by getting in the way.  he's being pushed aside by a fellow hooper-w00k.  i think it was from a cervantes post SCI show concert. something like that.

this is correct

that picture is from last March... so by July I had definitely taken a turn for the worse... and now I've got the full beard ;D
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2004, 11:18:13 PM »
funniest pic ever, tim doesnt care, hes getting a picture w/ them no matter what :) did they bail after that?(hoola-hoopers?)
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2004, 11:20:16 PM »
no they had just arrived and taken over the joint to see New Monsoon, we were just getting ready to leave after Signal Path :)
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2004, 12:50:17 PM »
Anyone have recomendations on configurations that work best in a loud club.....you know, one of those places where people show up for God knows what reason and really could care less about the music and run their mouths and laugh the whole damn time....... >:( >:( >:(

In addition to the recommendations already made, obviously, the closer to the source you can get the better.

If the club is running a mono mix (usually) and you can get your rig setup close to a stack you'll be better off then being DFC and surrounded by a lot of chatter.
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #28 on: December 07, 2004, 01:01:19 PM »
Anyone have recomendations on configurations that work best in a loud club.....you know, one of those places where people show up for God knows what reason and really could care less about the music and run their mouths and laugh the whole damn time....... >:( >:( >:(

In addition to the recommendations already made, obviously, the closer to the source you can get the better.

If the club is running a mono mix (usually) and you can get your rig setup close to a stack you'll be better off then being DFC and surrounded by a lot of chatter.

I tend to have this problem...the band I have been taping seems to only play in long narrow bars that and coffee shops that force them to setup diagonally in a corner on one end of the bar/coffee shop.

What I am running in to is that setting up close is the only option, but also that means I am so close that one stack is invariably pointed in some way that makes a stereo recording of a mono sound setup a problem.  I have been able to make some pretty good recordings this way, but am worrying the whole time about my mic configuration.  I haven't tried running really close to one of the stacks, but I don't know why.

Does anyone know of why this would be a bad idea?  ???

Since I have been helping the band setup some I have been able to point the stacks in the direction I wish, but that doesn't really help in a long narrow venue where they setup on a diagonal in a corner.
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Re: Best Noise Dampering Mic Configuration
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2004, 01:05:47 PM »
A few problems I see with getting "too close" to the stacks:
 a) High SPL's might cause distortion in your recording, either on the front end (mic capsule) or clipping in the rear (pre-amp & A/D)
 b) If such a small band some of the instruments (Drums, Guitars, Bass for example) are maybe left un-mic'ed and not run through the PA (drums especially) and therefor would not be as present in the mix as they should be.

Does the band have vocals?  If not you might want to try and run on-stage or at stage lip with some omni's.  What is your gear?  What kind of band?  What kind of PA setup?
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