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can i run DIN with this?
« on: November 11, 2004, 01:31:31 PM »
I see the picture of DIN configuration.  I understand the angle.  But the spacing is killing me.  I have a shure vert bar, a konig meyer t bar, and another T-bar that is 6 inches, and my LD shockmounts.  Where do I measure my 20cm from?  Front, center, middle?  Is it more important to have a 90 degree angle or 20cm.  Do I need an extender arm like he has in the picture? http://homepage.mac.com/gottajiboo40/PhotoAlbum11.html.  Thanks.
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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2004, 01:33:36 PM »
DIN would be 90°

i can get din with my TL's and a shure vert bar no problem

17cm for hypers DINa and 20cm for cards DIN

measure from the center of each cap

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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2004, 01:44:41 PM »
Do you hang one "upside down" to align the horizontal plane
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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2004, 01:48:45 PM »
Im thinking that it  doesn't matter
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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2004, 01:49:14 PM »
i do both upright. as long as there isnt a huge difference in the vertical plane, you are ok

i move the "spacers" on the vert bar to have the mounts both in the center to get the mics the closest

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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2004, 01:50:53 PM »
I used to run DIN with my A27.

It looks like you have shock guards that bend. Basicly from the X/Y position adjust them back if that makes sense. Set the A27 exacltly as it is in X/Y and create the 90 degree angle by adjusting just the shock mount. You'll of course need to measure it was easy with small diaphragm long body mics.



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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2004, 01:54:03 PM »
Which was should the front of the TLS point?
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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2004, 01:56:56 PM »
which way? at 45° angles to the stage, 90° angle for the mics
almost pointing at the stacks if you are close enough

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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2004, 02:04:08 PM »
Im thinking that it  doesn't matter
don't run your LD's horizontal.  some weird phase issues can occur.  they were designed to be run vertical.  i've done some tests and sure enough, it sounds better vertical.

although ymmv, LD microphones are designed to be run vertical....either upright or upside down.

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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2004, 02:06:35 PM »
Thanks for all the help.  I can really see this now.  ONe more question.  The mic on the left hand side.  Should the "front" be pointed at the right stack, or the left stack.  in other words like xy is there the channel crossing?
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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2004, 02:15:19 PM »
Thanks for all the help.  I can really see this now.  ONe more question.  The mic on the left hand side.  Should the "front" be pointed at the right stack, or the left stack.  in other words like xy is there the channel crossing?

yeah don't do this either ;) it wouldn't be DIN anymore.  just follow the pictures in the link you provided

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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2004, 02:26:48 PM »
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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2004, 02:31:51 PM »
no, you are running horizontal and your mics are facing each other at no angle

that looks like horizontal AB @ 0º

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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2004, 02:32:54 PM »
So would it look anything like this?
http://www.picjar.com/pub/bagtagsellit/Taping/P1210044.JPG
lol. not even close. you are running them horizontal. get them upright with the xlrs on the bottom. looks like the correct spacing, but you have a 180° angle. make it a 90°

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Re: can i run DIN with this?
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2004, 02:33:22 PM »
i wish i had a digi cam

 

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