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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #210 on: January 18, 2011, 07:57:16 PM »
I sent an email to HOODMAN to find out about the read / write formats of their CF card.

I got this back >

HI Gene,

 Hoodman RAW CF cards do not have SLC or MLC inside.  As they use SSD which is on the PDF.

 Best Regards,

 Jean Vang

Marketing Dept.
Hoodman Corporation
20445 Gramercy Place, Suite # 201
Torrance, CA 90501
Phone: 310.222.8608
Fax:     310.222.8623
jean@hoodmanusa.com


HUH ?


This is the .pdf

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z48/igene_01/HoodmanRAWCF.jpg
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #211 on: January 18, 2011, 08:16:28 PM »
That makes no sense at all - SSD refers to an area of storage technology - SSD's commonly implement SLC or MLC Flash chips
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #212 on: January 19, 2011, 05:14:04 PM »
I sent this email back.

A SSD drive needs to gather data in either SLC or MLC format.
SSD's all function that way, including all CF cards.
What format does your RAW card use if not SLC or MLC ?

Got this back >

Hi Gene,
I’m terribly sorry I gave you the wrong information.
The Hoodman CF cards use SLC memory.   
If you have any other questions, please let me know.

 Best Regards,
Jean Vang

Marketing Dept.
Hoodman Corporation


Now we're getting somewhere ! ;D
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #213 on: January 19, 2011, 06:46:50 PM »
That's what happens when a marketing dude answers a tech question! Good job...

Still those cards are pretty expensive even for an SLC. Their 8 GB is around the same price as the 16 GB Ritek. And the Hoodman 4 GB is close in price to the Super Talent 16 GB at Superbiiz.


Quote from: igene on January 19, 2011, 05:14:04 PM
I sent this email back.

A SSD drive needs to gather data in either SLC or MLC format.
SSD's all function that way, including all CF cards.
What format does your RAW card use if not SLC or MLC ?

Got this back >

Hi Gene,
I’m terribly sorry I gave you the wrong information.
The Hoodman CF cards use SLC memory.   
If you have any other questions, please let me know.

 Best Regards,
Jean Vang

Marketing Dept.
Hoodman Corporation


Now we're getting somewhere ! ;D
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #214 on: January 19, 2011, 07:18:38 PM »
    I was wondering if the airline adapters work for line in on the MR-1
    Is the spacing the same, or do you need to use a stereo  to mono splitter w/ loose tails ?


If so, I found this really nice set >

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Scosche-adapTOUR-Audio-Adapter-Kit/10059150
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #215 on: January 19, 2011, 07:27:19 PM »
Quote from: igene on January 19, 2011, 07:18:38 PM
    I was wondering if the airline adapters work for line in on the MR-1
    Is the spacing the same, or do you need to use a stereo  to mono splitter w/ loose tails ?


If so, I found this really nice set >

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Scosche-adapTOUR-Audio-Adapter-Kit/10059150

Yea, thought the same. And I tried it, but unfortunately the airline adapter spacing is a bit smaller on the adapters I used.  :-\
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #216 on: January 19, 2011, 07:31:34 PM »

Quote

Interesting.
It really sounds like you have a lemon.

yea it seems...
and of course no warranty anymore...

Are you dead set on using this recorder, or are you just stubborn like me, when i wanted to keep using my SBM-1?

Well I´m still using it. Thinking also to exchange the battery, or try to. So cheap mods would help a lot;)
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #217 on: January 19, 2011, 08:57:59 PM »
I got mine from eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Airline-Headphone-Adapter-1-8-3-5mm-dual-3-5mm-plug-/350416782464?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519677c480

That's probably not the same person I bought it from, but it looks identical.

If you are willing to wait, there are some from Hong Kong that are $1 for 2 pcs.



Quote from: igene on January 19, 2011, 07:18:38 PM
    I was wondering if the airline adapters work for line in on the MR-1
    Is the spacing the same, or do you need to use a stereo  to mono splitter w/ loose tails ?


If so, I found this really nice set >

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Scosche-adapTOUR-Audio-Adapter-Kit/10059150
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #218 on: January 19, 2011, 09:31:39 PM »
Well, I realize the HOODMAN cards are more $$, but here is my logic >

If you read the .pdf - they are boasting zero failure on all their memory sold in the last 3 years.
I consider that a solid place to start, and remember  - these are the 100Mb/s SLC read/write cards
I'm thinking 100% compatibility - yet to be seen

...So if the card is compatible,

I'm going to shoot high and assume I can find (or have made) a higher capacity battery
(working on that)

Then the 2 elements come together - Long run time and error free recording.

so that's what I'm thinkin'

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me -I found this really nice set >
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Scosche-adapTOUR-Audio-Adapter-Kit/10059150

RTD - Yea, thought the same. And I tried it, but unfortunately the airline adapter spacing is a bit smaller on the adapters I used. :-\
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Hey RTD,

I didn't get what you meant. Did you get that exact set and it didn't fit, or another airline adapter similar to it and it didn't fit.
Because tedyun says he knows of ones that fit...

I'm confused... ??? :o ::)
Some fit and others don't ?
Aren't the airline plugs all a standard size, a set format ?
fill me in...



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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #219 on: January 20, 2011, 04:41:16 AM »
Quote from: igene on January 19, 2011, 09:31:39 PM
Well, I realize the HOODMAN cards are more $$, but here is my logic >


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me -I found this really nice set >
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Scosche-adapTOUR-Audio-Adapter-Kit/10059150

RTD - Yea, thought the same. And I tried it, but unfortunately the airline adapter spacing is a bit smaller on the adapters I used. :-\
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Hey RTD,

I didn't get what you meant. Did you get that exact set and it didn't fit, or another airline adapter similar to it and it didn't fit.
Because tedyun says he knows of ones that fit...

I'm confused... ??? :o ::)
Some fit and others don't ?
Aren't the airline plugs all a standard size, a set format ?
fill me in...

No, I didn´t bought the exact same ones. I got it from Ebay in Canada. They working fine in the plane, but not with the MR1. It needs just a little more space between the plugs (1 or 1,5 mm)and possibly more flexible plastic can fit.
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #220 on: January 20, 2011, 08:45:23 AM »
The ZIF to CF adapter I used in my MR-1 is:


http://cgi.ebay.com/Compact-Flash-CF-Toshiba-IPod-CE-1-8-ZIF-Adapter-/220595019625


Only $3 shipped each from Hong Kong - Took 2 weeks to get them.
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #221 on: January 20, 2011, 11:04:53 AM »
Quote from: H²O on January 20, 2011, 08:45:23 AM
The ZIF to CF adapter I used in my MR-1 is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Compact-Flash-CF-Toshiba-IPod-CE-1-8-ZIF-Adapter-/220595019625

Only $3 shipped each from Hong Kong - Took 2 weeks to get them.

As I find it hard to keep straight who accomplished what in this mod...

H20 - Is your CF conversion working  ?
Please refresh...
At what stage are you in all this  ?
thanks

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RTD - thanks for the update. That Scosche looked sweet. Real low. DAMN.

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tedyun - the airline adapter you posted works / fits perfect ?

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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #222 on: January 20, 2011, 11:50:15 AM »
My CF works up to 24/88.2 with a 60MBps MLC card.  When the sampling rate is changed to 96Khz or higher (including DSD) it fails (with truncated files, etc)


I would think running a MLC card rated at 90MBps or higher Write Speed would give increased compatibility and possibly work without issue.
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #223 on: January 20, 2011, 12:24:08 PM »
Note that I did try a Samsung SLC SSD and this did not work - the speed is much slower (20MBps write)- although it may be a bad SSD.
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Re: KORG MR-1 pt.II
« Reply #224 on: January 20, 2011, 01:09:34 PM »
igene -- I have no problems with my adapter. I can believe RTD that it is 1 mm or so misaligned, but I had no problems putting it in. I rarely run it with the adapter these days, so I can't recall. You should just buy the adapter from WalMart, try it and return it if it doesn't fit.

So a high speed (600x) MLC CF card has not been tried.

What I could try is to see if my 300x card (45 MBps) works at 24/88.2. If it fails, then that would add confidence that it is the write speed. If it passes, then it still is unknown whether a 600x card will work.

igene, would you be willing to try a 600x MLC card, or are you set on the Hoodman?



Quote from: H²O on January 20, 2011, 11:50:15 AM
My CF works up to 24/88.2 with a 60MBps MLC card.  When the sampling rate is changed to 96Khz or higher (including DSD) it fails (with truncated files, etc)


I would think running a MLC card rated at 90MBps or higher Write Speed would give increased compatibility and possibly work without issue.


Note that I did try a Samsung SLC SSD and this did not work - the speed is much slower (20MBps write)- although it may be a bad SSD.


Quote from: igene on January 20, 2011, 11:04:53 AM
Quote from: H²O on January 20, 2011, 08:45:23 AM
The ZIF to CF adapter I used in my MR-1 is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Compact-Flash-CF-Toshiba-IPod-CE-1-8-ZIF-Adapter-/220595019625

Only $3 shipped each from Hong Kong - Took 2 weeks to get them.

As I find it hard to keep straight who accomplished what in this mod...

H20 - Is your CF conversion working  ?
Please refresh...
At what stage are you in all this  ?
thanks

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RTD - thanks for the update. That Scosche looked sweet. Real low. DAMN.

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tedyun - the airline adapter you posted works / fits perfect ?
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