Author Topic: JB3 usb vs firewire??? (Read 7371 times)

Gordon · « **on:** December 29, 2004, 04:31:38 PM »

didn't see anything in the FAO about this. if it's there sorry. how much slower are transfers with the usb? my computer doesn't have firefire and I've already spent a lot of money the last two weeks. are they both just as accurate??

mmedley. · « **Reply #1 on:** December 29, 2004, 04:40:21 PM »

USB 2 is actually faster than Firewire. Same end results.

kfrinkle · « **Reply #2 on:** December 29, 2004, 04:41:48 PM »

I do not have usb 2.0, just usb 1.1 (i think it is 1.1) and I cannot tranfer large files from the jukebox via usb, not sure what the deal is, but the damned thing just pukes every time. So i only transfer via firewire. that is my story though, i think most machines nowadays have built in usb 2.0...

Gordon · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2004, 04:46:17 PM »

how do I know which usb I have??

edit: I looked at my computer specs and I have 2.0

mmedley. · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2004, 04:50:41 PM »

Quote from: datdork on December 29, 2004, 04:46:17 PM

how do I know which usb I have??

How old is your machine? That is usually the best wat to tell. Otherwise, right click My Comp > Properties > Hardware Tab > Device Manager > Look for Universal Serial Bus Controller, expand that and see if you see anything in there about USB 2.0. If not, then you probably dont have it. You can get a firewire or a usb 2 card for pretty cheap. Shouldn't be more than $20 tops.

Edit:

You can also just plug it in and test it. See if Windows sees it as a high-speed device. If that doesn't work. Try a transfer. If it takes more than a few minutes (2-3 max), then you prolly don't.

mmedley. · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2004, 04:57:42 PM »

FYI...

Firewire 400 transfers at 400Mpbs
Firewire 800 transfers at 800Mbps
USB 1 transfers at 12Mbps (I think)
USB 2 transfers at 480Mbps.

dnsacks · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2004, 05:27:07 PM »

I'm pretty sure the jb3 is only a usb 1 device, so it won't really matter what you have on your computer, it will only transfer as fast as the jb3 will push the data to the pc.

Firewire cards are CHEAP -- should be able to find one for $20 --

Regardless, the jb3 is passing the music to the pc as data, firewire and usb SHOULD be equally accurate in the transfer, just a lot longer on usb (but still faster than realtime transfers)

caymanreview · « **Reply #7 on:** December 30, 2004, 05:54:32 AM »

jb3 = usb1.0

F.O.Bean · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2004, 01:25:21 PM »

firewire here, couldnt be happier either

John Kelly · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2004, 02:26:21 PM »

Quote from: Shitters Full on December 29, 2004, 04:57:42 PM

FYI...

Firewire 400 transfers at sustained 400Mpbs
Firewire 800 transfers at sustained 800Mbps
USB 1 transfers at 12Mbps bursts (I think)
USB 2 transfers at 480Mbps bursts

Fixed for ya. Firewire 400 is in practical use faster than USB2.

momule · « **Reply #10 on:** January 02, 2005, 09:52:08 PM »

I picked up one of these to try out , I ended up buying 4 more about two weeks later. Ive never had a prob out of any of them
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64458&item=6733177742&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Nice card , from a reputable dealer, at a dirt price.
I didnt have to load a single driver with 2000 pro , it was plug and play ..

Gordon · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2005, 01:44:06 PM »

thansk for the link. for now I'm gonna use usb. probablly will buy a firewire in a month or so.

Gordon · « **Reply #12 on:** January 04, 2005, 02:31:51 PM »

doesn't say that it'll work with xp. this one does. any difference??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60269&item=6733342918&rd=1

Chris K · « **Reply #13 on:** January 04, 2005, 02:42:00 PM »

Quote from: gordon on January 04, 2005, 02:31:51 PM

doesn't say that it'll work with xp. this one does. any difference??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60269&item=6733342918&rd=1

this is a cardbus card for a laptop. i bought this same one from ebay for $0.99 about 4mo ago and it works great.

usb works, and its still better than realtime dat transfers, but a jb3 via firewire transfer is probably the next best thing to taping right onto your computer/laptop...at least at 16bit

Nick in Edinboro · « **Reply #14 on:** January 04, 2005, 02:51:19 PM »

Quote from: O-dog on January 03, 2005, 06:47:50 PM

don't walk, run, to buy that 1394 FW card you'll never regret it. If you're like me, just knowing that the USB is WAY slower than FW is enough to get me off the dime... YMMV

QFT.. RUN.

Those usb transfers are SO much slower (and in my case almost always crash/puke before finishing).

Nomad · « **Reply #15 on:** January 06, 2005, 05:09:37 PM »

USB 2 is as fast as Firewire but Firewire has been achieving those speeds successfully for much longer. Still some quirks with 2.0 from time to time. Although I havent had problems with my 1 to 3 target burner using 2.0

Gordon · « **Reply #16 on:** January 06, 2005, 06:56:21 PM »

the jb3 only supprts usb1.

Nick in Edinboro · « **Reply #17 on:** January 06, 2005, 10:23:19 PM »

Quote from: Nomad on January 06, 2005, 05:09:37 PM

USB 2 is as fast as Firewire

No it's not, as stated before. The key is throughput.

nic · « **Reply #18 on:** January 06, 2005, 10:40:57 PM »

Quote from: Nomad on January 06, 2005, 05:09:37 PM

USB 2 is as fast as Firewire

not quite. usb2 peaks as fast as firewire, but sustained throughput is slower than firewire.
besides, the jb3 is usb1.1, not 2. for transferring jb3>pc, firewire will run mad rings around usb

urobouros · « **Reply #19 on:** January 10, 2005, 09:36:55 PM »

I just got a firwire card off ebay for <$15 w/ shipping. Can't wait to install it!!

daverinuk · « **Reply #20 on:** January 10, 2005, 11:03:24 PM »

Which is why macs rule for audio...the first time I used firewire was to d/l songs onto my iPod...I thought it was kidding when it dumped 10 gigs in 25 seconds...
I'll be taping my first show with my firewire interface this Sunday in Orlando...

Nick in Edinboro · « **Reply #21 on:** January 11, 2005, 08:25:21 AM »

Quote from: daverinuk on January 10, 2005, 11:03:24 PM

Which is why macs rule for audio...

Because it has firewire?

I rule because I can scribblyscroll so fast..

daverinuk · « **Reply #22 on:** January 11, 2005, 11:31:16 AM »

Because apple came up with firewire...

Nick in Edinboro · « **Reply #23 on:** January 11, 2005, 12:02:17 PM »

I don't see how that makes them "rule for audio" but ok

Michael D. Jonas invented FireWire as an international standard--he just happened to be working for Apple at the time and after a little begging they smartly implimented it. Apple does, however, own some legal rights to the term "FireWire" and "i.Link" I believe.

http://www.1394ta.org/

fsulloway · « **Reply #24 on:** January 11, 2005, 12:20:30 PM »

Quote from: luvean on January 11, 2005, 12:02:46 PM

Quote from: daverinuk on January 11, 2005, 11:31:16 AM
Because apple came up with firewire...

it was a joint Apple/Sony spec, not just Apple

Yep. Apple likes to use the term firewire and Sony calls it iLink.

John Kelly · « **Reply #25 on:** January 11, 2005, 01:12:26 PM »

Quote from: Nick in Edinboro on January 11, 2005, 12:02:17 PM

Michael D. Jonas invented FireWire as an international standard--he just happened to be working for Apple at the time and after a little begging they smartly implimented it.

Right.

Apple and Sony worked together to develop the standard known as firewire and published it as an IEEE standard so anyone can use it.

Author Topic: JB3 usb vs firewire??? (Read 7371 times)

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