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Title: Comcast Throttling
Post by: checht on August 19, 2018, 11:45:54 PM
After seeding both 16/44 and 24/48 versions of a show this week, internet slowed almost to a stop.

Wife called Comcast "They said we're using too much upload."

I've got utorrent set to always encrypt.

Ideas? Maybe a server to upload to and seed from?

Is it bandwidth or amount uploaded?

Blech
Title: Re: Comcast Throttling
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on August 19, 2018, 11:52:06 PM
I think Comcast has a 1TB per month limit in many places.

I live by myself and use around 400GB. I could easily see 2+ person household going over that limit if you stream a lot of video. That's where the vast majority of my data use comes from. I don't torrent from home, I have a seedbox in Europe that handles my torrents. If I torrented from home I might even go over 1TB by myself! 
Title: Re: Comcast Throttling
Post by: ts on August 20, 2018, 07:21:43 PM
How do you check your monthly usage? We have 3 in the house and we all stream. Mostly at night of course. I do very little uploading these days.
Title: Re: Comcast Throttling
Post by: morst on August 20, 2018, 08:19:02 PM
I live by myself and use around 400GB.


UPSTREAM??


 :o
Title: Re: Comcast Throttling
Post by: rigpimp on August 22, 2018, 10:48:40 AM
Comcast has a monthly data limit of 1TB.  That might sound like a lot to some folks but it is COMBINED DATA.  Upload, download, and HDTV/Chrome/Fire app use (Netflix, YouTube, etc)

A customer is allowed two instances of going over the monthly cap per annum without additional charges.  (Guess how I know?)

BUT, with net neutrality out of their way, all is fair in love and war.  Here is an example:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/08/verizon-throttled-fire-departments-unlimited-data-during-calif-wildfire/

Good luck to us.

Title: Re: Comcast Throttling
Post by: mattmiller on August 22, 2018, 11:59:47 AM
How I would love to see something like this actually done:

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Why, yes Verizon, your corporate headquarters do pay municipal taxes and that does of course include unlimited removal of sewage from your building. However, we've determined that you have exceeded your acceptable limit of sewage removal and we have therefore stopped all outflow from your building. We can, of course, clear the lines but it will cost you ten times your tax rate in order for us to do so, unless you choose to wait until the next tax year before flushing your toilets. Let us know, and be sure to open a window while you consider your options.
Title: Re: Comcast Throttling
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on August 22, 2018, 02:32:42 PM
I live by myself and use around 400GB.


UPSTREAM??


 :o

Combined. Mostly down. I don't torrent from home, so my only upload is really uploading shows to my seedbox.
Title: Re: Comcast Throttling
Post by: rodeen on August 22, 2018, 02:52:12 PM
My Comca$t bill just went up $40 this month.  Time to do the annual "Get my price back down or I am going to switch" dance.  Meh.  Wish me luck.

Title: Re: Comcast Throttling
Post by: rocksuitcase on August 22, 2018, 04:19:45 PM
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/8/22/1790116/-Verizon-accused-of-throttling-California-Fire-Department-during-emergency-wildfires

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In the spring of 2017, Republicans Ajit Pai and Sen. Ron Johnson took a promotional tour in the hopes of selling the idea of doing away with net neutrality protections. Pai, who is Trump’s pick to chair the Federal Communications Commission, was going to do it anyway, but the hope was to save Republican representatives who would be adversely affected by the wildly unpopular decision some grief. It also allowed aging senators—who clearly had little to no understanding of what or how the internet works—a chance to have their hand held by a professional telecom lackey like Pai.

At that time, the best lie that Republicans could come up with for taking away consumer protections from the notoriously consumer-unfriendly telecom industr, was that it would somehow ensure that emergency services were prioritized over pornography. Literally: that was the bogus argument. In fact, the opposite was true. Without net neutrality, internet service providers (ISPs) will throttle services regardless of whether or not they give out “unlimited data” plans.

Throttling is the term used when an ISP intentionally slows down your service to stop the amount of data you are able to use. Throttling can and does disable many internet activities, and there is some explosive evidence in a brief filed by 22 state attorneys general appealing the Republican rollback of net neutrality protections. A declaration made by Santa Clara County Fire Chief Anthony Bowden says that Verizon throttled his Fire Department’s “unlimited” data service at the worst possible time—during a wildfire emergency.
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"County Fire has experienced throttling by its ISP, Verizon," Santa Clara County Fire Chief Anthony Bowden wrote in a declaration. "This throttling has had a significant impact on our ability to provide emergency services. Verizon imposed these limitations despite being informed that throttling was actively impeding County Fire's ability to provide crisis-response and essential emergency services."
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Arstechnica received a response from Verizon that said while they agreed they had made a mistake, it was a “customer support mistake,” and this issue “has nothing to do with net neutrality.”

    Santa Clara County disputed Verizon's characterization of the problem in a press release last night. "Verizon's throttling has everything to do with net neutrality—it shows that the ISPs will act in their economic interests, even at the expense of public safety," County Counsel James Williams said on behalf of the county and fire department. "That is exactly what the Trump Administration's repeal of net neutrality allows and encourages."