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Title: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: el gato on December 08, 2004, 11:47:38 PM
I am having issues while trying to make a fingerprint.  I place the flacs in frontend hit the fingerprint button.  I then select the save location and hit save.  When I go to the saved location the file is not there.  I have searched the entire c drive with no luck.  I also tried to save to a floppy but to no avail.  Everything else on the the program works fine except trying to access the help button.  The screen blinks as if a new window is opening but there is no way to access it.  I found a reference to this on http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=FlacFaq, but cannot find a way to fix the problem.  Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Ed. on December 09, 2004, 03:32:52 AM
i know it sounds funny, but did you name the file?
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 09, 2004, 06:28:16 AM
also, in my experience w/ fingerprinting, i hit fingerprint, then pick a notepad place to save it(ie, ph1998-12-29), then i close flac frontend, open the notepad in notepad, and there it is, THEN i save again in an open notepad, this works 100% of the time for me

good luck

bean
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: MattD on December 09, 2004, 09:46:00 AM
also, in my experience w/ fingerprinting, i hit fingerprint, then pick a notepad place to save it(ie, ph1998-12-29), then i close flac frontend, open the notepad in notepad, and there it is, THEN i save again in an open notepad, this works 100% of the time for me

In Bean's defense, he posted at 6:30 AM. I have no clue what he's saying, either.
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: rdptha2nd on December 09, 2004, 09:52:43 AM
also, in my experience w/ fingerprinting, i hit fingerprint, then pick a notepad place to save it(ie, ph1998-12-29), then i close flac frontend, open the notepad in notepad, and there it is, THEN i save again in an open notepad, this works 100% of the time for me

In Bean's defense, he posted at 6:30 AM. I have no clue what he's saying, either.

I am with you on that one....+T to bean for making that sound like he knows what he is talking about without anyone else knowing what he is talking about
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: heath on December 09, 2004, 09:54:00 AM
+T to bean for being nonsensical in the morning.

Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: el gato on December 10, 2004, 12:10:45 AM
i know it sounds funny, but did you name the file?

I double checked that too..even tried to give it a different name so that I didn't over look it
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: el gato on December 10, 2004, 12:13:00 AM
also, in my experience w/ fingerprinting, i hit fingerprint, then pick a notepad place to save it(ie, ph1998-12-29), then i close flac frontend, open the notepad in notepad, and there it is, THEN i save again in an open notepad, this works 100% of the time for me

good luck

bean

I think i understand what your saying, but when I reopen notepad to locate the file it is not listed...I think I'm grasping at straws here but could windows service pack 2 possibly have screwed this up?
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Todd R on December 10, 2004, 05:51:49 PM
Just another guess, but you are you sure you loaded up the flac files to make a fingerprint?  Sometimes I screw up and try to immediately make a fingerprint of the .wavs that were previously in the flac frontend queue for making the flacs files, and that doesn't work.  Another possible goof, but maybe that's your problem.
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: el gato on December 10, 2004, 08:54:11 PM
I doubled checked that also.  I have even tried to to manually make one by using flac -ffp in the run section,  and all I get is a quick "blip" of the black program screen and that is all (I do not get that if I try hitting the fingerprint tab in frontend).  I think there is a bigger problen with my system not allowing the program to run properly.  Thanks to everyone for the help and suggestions.  If I can figure out what happened I will let you know.  Thanks Again

Tom
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: F.O.Bean on December 11, 2004, 12:53:40 AM
I doubled checked that also.  I have even tried to to manually make one by using flac -ffp in the run section,  and all I get is a quick "blip" of the black program screen and that is all (I do not get that if I try hitting the fingerprint tab in frontend).  I think there is a bigger problen with my system not allowing the program to run properly.  Thanks to everyone for the help and suggestions.  If I can figure out what happened I will let you know.  Thanks Again

Tom

you SHOULD be getting that quick 'blip' black screen that windows pops up REAL quick, when fingerprinting properly, FWIW
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Brian Skalinder on February 22, 2006, 03:16:01 PM
I click the fingerprint file and box opens asking me to name the file, default ext of .txt.

Did you also navigate to the directory in which you want the FFP to reside?  I believe the default directory is the FLAC home directory, not the location of the FLAC files you're trying to fingerprint.

You might also try generating the FFP from a command line (http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=FlacFingerprint) - the results won't disappear and you can see if there are any errors:

To create an ffp file using the standard .flac command line tools type "metaflac --show-md5sum flac_file_names > ffp.txt" When you generate a flac fingerprint file, it is merely a readout and compilation of the internally stored checksums from each of the flac files.
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Brian Skalinder on February 22, 2006, 03:36:16 PM
there is a box on the bottom of the screen for output directory, that is set to "same as input dir"

IME that checkbox applies to generating FLACs only, not the FFP.  When generating the FFP, I have to manually select the proper directory every time.  Good luck!
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: scb on February 22, 2006, 04:25:08 PM
just use this to make a damn fingerprint!

http://crush.epix.net/~scb/xactwin/xACT0.5.3.zip

:)

and yes the app as a whole still sucks but i promise i'll make it better...
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Gedit on March 04, 2006, 10:25:49 AM
i avoid all of this confusion by using FLAC frontend to FLAC the wavs and use md5 to make the FFP file.

Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: tapinfool on March 04, 2006, 11:44:39 AM
obviously i used the search, i am having this exact same problem and it's driving me insane.  why can't i create a fingerprint file??

i have the latest version of flac installed.  i open the flac program and click the add button.  then i browse to the folder where the songs are that i want to fingerprint, and i highlight them all and they appear in the main flac window.  it is one concert and all files are named in this formant:  band-yyyy-mm-dd-d1t*.flac

I click the fingerprint file and box opens asking me to name the file, default ext of .txt.  i have this without the actual file existing(ie, create a new file with ffp info) and i have tried this after creating an empty text file with the name X.txt and also band-yyyy-mm-dd.txt.  nothing works.  wtf i am missing?  it's gotta be obvious but i cannot for the life of me figure this out.  i have tried highlighting all the files(ie shift + click) and also just one at a time or none at all. 

any special buttons need to be checked?  i unchecked the delete files button...i just get a super fast blip which i assume is the cmd prompt and then nothing.  for the love of god help me. 

i also totally f*cked up the torrent i tried to seed but that's another story.  try and be a nice guy and all i do is create a mess. 

thanks.

i have had the EXACT same prob's

that's why none of my recordings have been fingerprinted.

i've tried everything mentioned here and still no luck.

i'm just gonna get someone over here that can do it and show me in person.

this has been drivin' me nuts for a good while now
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 04, 2006, 12:55:14 PM
i avoid all of this confusion by using FLAC frontend to FLAC the wavs and use md5 to make the FFP file.



i never knew md5 can make ffp's ???
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Gedit on March 04, 2006, 12:58:01 PM
i avoid all of this confusion by using FLAC frontend to FLAC the wavs and use md5 to make the FFP file.



i never knew md5 can make ffp's ???

that's the only reason i use it. and it's fast.
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 04, 2006, 01:05:12 PM
i avoid all of this confusion by using FLAC frontend to FLAC the wavs and use md5 to make the FFP file.



i never knew md5 can make ffp's ???

that's the only reason i use it. and it's fast.

how do you do that? w/ mkwact?
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Gedit on March 04, 2006, 01:11:26 PM
http://www.md5summer.org

Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 04, 2006, 01:18:33 PM
ahh, ok, thanks, ive only used md5summer a few times and didnt care for it
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Gedit on March 04, 2006, 01:22:11 PM
bean , i just use it for ffp generation. pretty straightforward for that. i have no idea what else it does  :-\
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: MattD on March 04, 2006, 01:25:37 PM
As far as I know, MD5 can't generate an FFP. The FFP is the checksum for the WAVE DATA in the file. An MD5 is the checksum for the file itself. If you change the tags or compression level, for example, the MD5 will also change, but the FFP will not.
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 04, 2006, 01:27:06 PM
bean , i just use it for ffp generation. pretty straightforward for that. i have no idea what else it does  :-\

you dont make md5's for your files? you should start bud!
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Gedit on March 04, 2006, 01:35:48 PM
bean , i just use it for ffp generation. pretty straightforward for that. i have no idea what else it does  :-\

you dont make md5's for your files? you should start bud!

i ue flac frontend for flacing files, and md5 to geneeate the ffp text file - all of this for uploading to LMA. What else do i need to use md5 for?
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: F.O.Bean on March 04, 2006, 01:42:14 PM
bean , i just use it for ffp generation. pretty straightforward for that. i have no idea what else it does  :-\

you dont make md5's for your files? you should start bud!

i ue flac frontend for flacing files, and md5 to geneeate the ffp text file - all of this for uploading to LMA. What else do i need to use md5 for?

make an mnd5 of the whole folder, its a checksumming device to see if all of the files are there and correct, if anything happens to your burn/upload, the md5 will be able to tell, it does a bit for bit check of the whole folder
Title: Re: FLAC Fingerprint help
Post by: Gedit on March 04, 2006, 01:45:26 PM
bean , i just use it for ffp generation. pretty straightforward for that. i have no idea what else it does  :-\

you dont make md5's for your files? you should start bud!

i ue flac frontend for flacing files, and md5 to geneeate the ffp text file - all of this for uploading to LMA. What else do i need to use md5 for?

make an mnd5 of the whole folder, its a checksumming device to see if all of the files are there and correct, if anything happens to your burn/upload, the md5 will be able to tell, it does a bit for bit check of the whole folder

okay. that makes sense. thanks for the tip +T