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Title: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: mr_friendly on January 19, 2007, 02:53:54 PM
Any Toast users upgraded to ver. 8 yet? Apparently it adds some of the more advanced functionality from Jam now (normalization, cross-fades, track trimming, etc). I'm not clear on whether you can manually adjust L-R channels independently like in Jam.

I'm also not clear on whether I can now burn 48 kHz/24-bit DVD-Audio discs. According to this help file it will automatically downsample uncompressed PCM Audio to 48/16, unless you manually change the default to 96/24. Is there an option for 48/24? And does it automatically burn DVD-Audio discs as DAO?

http://kb.roxio.com/content/kb/General%20Information/000012T

-Jason
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: darby on January 19, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
Any Toast users upgraded to ver. 8 yet? Apparently it adds some of the more advanced functionality from Jam now (normalization, cross-fades, track trimming, etc). I'm not clear on whether you can manually adjust L-R channels independently like in Jam.

I'm also not clear on whether I can now burn 48 kHz/24-bit DVD-Audio discs. According to this help file it will automatically downsample uncompressed PCM Audio to 48/16, unless you manually change the default to 96/24. Is there an option for 48/24? And does it automatically burn DVD-Audio discs as DAO?

http://kb.roxio.com/content/kb/General%20Information/000012T

-Jason


I was thinking about it this week but I'm not ready to spend the $80... maybe I should
currently Toast7 downsamples to 16 bit and puts 2 second gaps between tracks :flaming:

I am not the only Mac user having this problem
so if these problems are fixed with 8 I'm all over it

if you get it_ keep us posted thanks!
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: wbrisette on January 20, 2007, 09:13:34 AM
Based on the text of the KB document, it sounds like there isn't an option for 24/48. I'm still using the older version of Toast and won't upgrade. I see zero value in it. I still use Toast for CDs and for DVD-A discs I use DVD-AudioFile.

Wayne
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: bl6216@yahoo.com on January 20, 2007, 01:07:18 PM
Hey darby why don't you take 2 second gaps between tracks out. I use Toast 7.0.2 and I do all the time.If you need help with that just pm me.

-Brain
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: willndmb on January 21, 2007, 08:08:52 AM
i have toast 8
i have only used it a couple of times though, i was using 6 before
you can def burn DAO, although it puts a 2 sec gap everytime and you have to change it
you can burn flacs direct to audio disc
you can transfer tivo programs to your comp and burn them direct
you can export tivo prgrams to iPod video format
yuo can compress dvd9 to dvd5

again i had 6 and its totally different then 6, not sure about 7

edit there is a way to burn dvd audio disc but i don't have files to try it so i can't help you, but there is def dvd audio disc as a choice
edit 2 i checked the "more options" 96/24, 48/24, 48/16 are the options you can pick
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: Nick Graham on January 21, 2007, 09:41:15 AM
I just downloaded it.

I've got some 24/48 files on my HD right now that need to be burned...I was gonna go the DVD-Audiofile route, but I'll try Toast first and report back.
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: bgalizio on January 21, 2007, 09:56:54 AM
I feel no need to upgrade from 7. I don't have a Tivo (use a different DVR), so that feature doesn't matter to me. Burning CDs currently requires you to change the 2 sec gap to 0 every time - sounds like that hasn't changed. For DVD-A burning, I just use DVD-Audiofile, which works very well.
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: Nick Graham on January 21, 2007, 10:10:30 AM
When burning a DVD-Audio disc, it does have bit depth/sample rate choices, there are also choices for setting the between track gaps on DVD-A....unfortunately "0 seconds" isn't one them. Sigh, still no DAO DVD-A with Toast.
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: darby on January 21, 2007, 11:07:12 AM
When burning a DVD-Audio disc, it does have bit depth/sample rate choices, there are also choices for setting the between track gaps on DVD-A....unfortunately "0 seconds" isn't one them. Sigh, still no DAO DVD-A with Toast.

thanks Nick
I'm glad I haven't PURCHASED it  yet :P
Macs are great...
but this 2 second gap seems to be an issue for all of us
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: taper420 on January 21, 2007, 03:43:45 PM
Yeah, that 2 second gap was def. a pain in 7. Had to use DVD studio pro to make what i wanted. Guess I won't be upgrading either. Also it should be noted that Toast doesn't burn DVD-A's, it burns Music DVD's, which will play on any DVD video player... not the same structure as the DVD-A's, which only plays on DVD Audio players.
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: willndmb on January 21, 2007, 04:50:59 PM
Yeah, that 2 second gap was def. a pain in 7. Had to use DVD studio pro to make what i wanted. Guess I won't be upgrading either. Also it should be noted that Toast doesn't burn DVD-A's, it burns Music DVD's, which will play on any DVD video player... not the same structure as the DVD-A's, which only plays on DVD Audio players.
ahhhhh good to know
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: scb on January 22, 2007, 10:23:23 AM
but this 2 second gap seems to be an issue for all of us

huh?
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: darby on January 22, 2007, 05:46:32 PM
but this 2 second gap seems to be an issue for all of us

huh?

everyone I know who has tried to burn music DVDs
in Toast has not been able to overcome this issue with
2 second gaps being INSERTED between tracks
even though the prefs are set  to 0
is this a music DVD issue that can be overcome
by burning as a DVDA... any ideas?
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: scb on January 22, 2007, 11:05:36 PM
oh, i've never burned a music dvd.  i burn audio cds or dvd-audio discs
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: mr_friendly on January 23, 2007, 02:30:16 PM
but this 2 second gap seems to be an issue for all of us

huh?

everyone I know who has tried to burn music DVDs
in Toast has not been able to overcome this issue with
2 second gaps being INSERTED between tracks
even though the prefs are set  to 0
is this a music DVD issue that can be overcome
by burning as a DVDA... any ideas?

Maybe we need to take this issue directly to Roxio. Burning Music CDs as DAO has long been a feature of Toast/Jam, so I don't know why this same functionality can't be available for Music DVDs.

I'm still using Toast/Jam ver. 5, so in spite of the above issue an upgrade might be in order for me if only to get something that will run better on a MacBook Pro. And if you order through Amazon now the upgrade only costs $60 with the mail-in rebate.
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: Nick Graham on January 28, 2007, 10:23:31 AM
Something else bothersome I've encountered after a week with the new Toast. You know the little box you have to go into to uncheck the 2 sec gap and hit apply to all? There's now another checkbox, an all together much more worrying one at that:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/wngraham/screen1.jpg)
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: darby on January 29, 2007, 01:29:20 PM
Something else bothersome I've encountered after a week with the new Toast. You know the little box you have to go into to uncheck the 2 sec gap and hit apply to all? There's now another checkbox, an all together much more worrying one at that:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v331/wngraham/screen1.jpg)

it appears that you can put a copy restriction on the disc that you burn
you just have to uncheck it before you burn the disc

have you burned a disc with it on yet?
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: wbrisette on January 29, 2007, 05:39:40 PM
it appears that you can put a copy restriction on the disc that you burn
you just have to uncheck it before you burn the disc

have you burned a disc with it on yet?

This isn't anything new. This is come from JAM, it is part of the redbook standard. Most applications that I've seen that are designed to create true redbook CDs have allowed you to set the CP bit for quite some time. With the exception of the MiniDisc, few products have ever supported this bit.

Wayne
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: wbrisette on January 30, 2007, 07:05:06 AM
For those of you who are trying to burn DVD+Audio (not DVD-A) discs another option is DVD2One: http://www.dvd2one.com/

I tried the demo and it seems to work just fine (the demo does limit you to 4 songs though).

Wayne
Title: Re: Toast Titanium 8 for OSX
Post by: keytohwy on February 16, 2007, 01:47:01 AM
I had an opportunity to spend some time with one of the product managers from Roxio.  I told him that in Toast 7, using the FLAC to AAC conversion stripped the metadata.  He assures me it is fixed in Toast 8, but I have not upgraded yet.  Anyone?

keytohwy