Topic: Cinela OSIX shock mount

[bl6216@yahoo.com]

I want to know if any one has seen this shock mount or any shock mount from them before. Do you think it would work with any of the kwon bar's ?  http://www.cinela.fr/osix-ortf.php


-Brian

[Jammin72]

If not you should be the first, it looks specifically designed for the purpose!   Good Find!

T

[Jammin72]

Wait... now that I'm looking more closely at these things.  It seems that a feature of the mount is to include an stubby xlr connector that attaches to the mic and then terminates at the mounting location of the shock itself.  Actually a neat little trick for positioning the mic once it's in the mount and to remove the weight/connector issue of the actual mic cable coming out of the back of the microphone.  The Schoeps stereo mic uses a 5pin xlr stereo connection.  You would have all of this apparatus around the mount which is not usable for the self-made bars at best it's a waste of $$ and space, at worst it will interfere with the mounting.   The pics of the other mounts gave it away.

[F.O.Bean]

While these are sweet looking and Im sure they work WONDERFULLY for their specific microphones, they WILL NOT work too well w/ the KwonBars at all. Not to mention the COST of these shocks. You must not have checked the prices for these did you? I dont know of the specific prices for these shocks, but I do know the name brand, and they ARE NOT CHEAP AT ALL

If you want a simple and efficient and effective shockmount for the KwonBars(which are 20mm) use what I and a few others use, and get a Shure A53M Donut Shockmount and be done w/ it They are also VERY well made(they have a metal threaded section and not that cheap plastic threading that some shocks have), and lightweight, and do what they do VERY WELL IMO. They also isolate up to 20db of noise reduction/handling noise and IMO are the best shockmount for a KwonBar, especially for around $40.00/Shipped The Shure A53M Donut Shockmounts fit the KweonBars PERFECTLY IMO since they were MADE for 20mm diameter microphones(the KwonBars are 20mm) Another option that would also work very well would be the Schoeps A20 or the stiffer elastics of the Schoeps A20S! But they are also DOUBLE the price of the Shure A53M, if not TRIPLE the price of the Shure A53M and simply arent worth DOUBLE the money, and I dont believe they isolate up to 20db of noise either like the Shure A53M does.

So IMO get a Shure A53M and be done with it. The A53M's also grip the KwonBars VERY WELL and very snug. I have used the NOS KwonBar w/ my Shure A53M and it DOES NOT sag or sway to one side or the other, but is held nicely and sturdily. IMO its the PERFECT shockmount for the KwonBar. And the Shure A53M only costs about $30.00 or so per shock. You'll only need one anyway They should be about $40.00/Shipped like I said above, and below Ive included 3 links to where they are around $30.00 w/ oit shipping. Those links are the cheapest I could find them w/ a quick Google search

Shure A53M links to the cheapest prices I could find thru a quick Google:
http://www.audiolines.com/Shure-A53M-p-21846.html

http://www.instrumentpro.com/P-SHUA53M?source=froogle

http://www.amazon.com/Shure-A53M-Isolation-Swivel-Adapter/dp/B0002F6ZUM

[DSatz]

Bean, the Shure A53M provides no isolation for the cable--the Achilles' heel of an otherwise very nice solution for Schoeps and older AKG microphones. It's imperative to isolate and tie down a length of "relaxed" cable coming from the mike so that vibrations don't get conducted into the mike body that way.

That can be done with a 30-cent plastic clip, as long as it's done correctly. The microphone has to "float" in the center of the suspension's range without the cable's stiffness being a factor in the microphone's freedom of motion.

--best regards

[F.O.Bean]

Bean, the Shure A53M provides no isolation for the cable--the Achilles' heel of an otherwise very nice solution for Schoeps and older AKG microphones. It's imperative to isolate and tie down a length of "relaxed" cable coming from the mike so that vibrations don't get conducted into the mike body that way.

That can be done with a 30-cent plastic clip, as long as it's done correctly. The microphone has to "float" in the center of the suspension's range without the cable's stiffness being a factor in the microphone's freedom of motion.

--best regards

I always make sure my mic cables have enough 'relaxed' room coming from the caps and run out a U shape towards the stand and then tie down w/ a velcro tie. Is that sufficient enough do you think to help vibrations? or does tieing the cables down to the stand, even tho they are 'relaxed' on the stand, even help at all, or am I causing unwanted vibrations when tying them down to the stand?

Do you have a picture for reference or a way to show a diagram of exactly what you mean?

FWIW< I have ALWAYS relaxed the cables exiting from my mics and give them enough room that they arent being pulled down from the weight of the cables. Is that sufficient enough do you think? I have always done it moreso because I didnt want the weight of the cables pulling my mics in any unwanted direction(downward, which would actually cause the mics to point upward)

[bl6216@yahoo.com]

It go's for about $300. Bean I am happy with the schoeps shock mount that I have and it would work fine with the kwon bar's. I was looking for some thing may be better.

-Brian

[John Willett]

The OSIX is an excellent mount - BUT - it is fragile and has to be made specifically for the mic. so I understand.

The Rycote InVision mounts are much cheaper and, as far as I am aware, actually better.

[F.O.Bean]

The OSIX is an excellent mount - BUT - it is fragile and has to be made specifically for the mic. so I understand.

The Rycote InVision mounts are much cheaper and, as far as I am aware, actually better.

Those are some SICK looking new shocks for sure. John, thanks for finding out how much $$ they are. I think for $75.00 or so, that they are VERY reasonably priced, and will be a great addition to any HQ mic setup IMO If I wasnt thrilled w/ my lo-pro Shure A53M shocks, I would look into those InVision mounts for sure But I am LOVIN my A53M shocks w/ my KwonBars. Once I get a Vark Bar for my Rode NT6 mounts for my MBHO's, I will be set since the A53M will also work beautifully w/ the Vark Bar, since the Vark Bar is made for 20mm mics/etc, and the Vark Bar is 20 mm

Brian, why do you want something better than the Schoeps A20/A20S or the Shure A53M? For size and price and functionality and the snug fit that the Schoeps A20/A20s and the Shure A53M give for the KwonBars/Vark Bar, I would think that they are PERFECT

If you want something without elastics or something that isnt going to break easily at all, get a Shure A53M donut shockmount like I have. I LOVE mine. And there are no elastics to break or go bad, and they are VERY rugged and durable IMO. I cant think of a better and more lo-pro shock for actives than the Shure A53M to be 100% honest I have one SHure A53M for my KwonBars, and one for my Vark Bar setup. Im ALL SEt. And I got them BOTh free from (2) VERY KIND ts.com members last summer Cant beta that price for sure

I think if/when the Rode NT6 2-Axis Swivel mounts are sold separately, you should get (2) of those just like I have, for configs other than DINa/DIN/NOS, and you would be SET. Lets see, $50.00 for a Vark BAr, and $40.00 for a Shure A53M, and I have NO CLUE how much the Rode NT6 mini-xlr mounts will be when sold separately, but all 3 things should still be cheaper than 2 KwonBars and you could run ANY config your heart desires

Like we say here at ts.com "Leave you wallet at the door"

[bl6216@yahoo.com]

I am really just looking to try some thing new. It may not be better but some one need to give it a try to see how it works.