Topic: CMC8 with Zoom H2 ... don't know which selection to order

[SmokinJoe]

I haven't used an H2, but I would think AT853s (CMC4) > battery box > line in should work fine without brickwalling.  That's how I generally run with my R09.  If you just bought the H2 and can return it to the store for a full refund, maybe it's a good idea to do that and buy the R09HR.  If you can't return the H2, and you have to try to sell it at a loss, I would try it before I declared it problematic.

Don't wait until you go to the $200 Rolling Stones show to try it... try it at some local bar.

[su6oxone]

There are so many options. Don't really know what to choose. Mostly used for rock gigs. Bass roll on, roll off? don't know! 4 mics to choose... don't know which to choose.

Battery Box is included here by selection. How long can I use the batteries? Any experiences with that combination?
Looking forward to your answers.

Church Audio CA-11 are probably the best affordable stealth mics, but if going the Audio Technica route, remember to get the 'low sensitivity' option (or else you will get distortion at loud concerts).  Both the AT853s and the CA-11s can fit in the 'taper hat' that SP sells... which is by far the easiest way to s****th.  The battery box will be fine to power the mics, or the Church CA-9100 preamp will do the job even better.  Both will last for some 20+ hours with a standard 9V battery.  I ran the 853 > 9100 > R09 for awhile and was pretty happy with the results. 

[Javier Cinakowski]

Just an FYI:

If getting the Audio Technica mics in mini-xlr, the "low sensativity mod" is not required.    Only for 1/8" is it helpful....

[Bury420]

pretty sure I will take the CA-9100 and only 1/8 sockets and the low sensitive mode on my mices. Only thing I don't know yet is which mices to use. Everyone got his own favorites

853, 943, CA-11, CA-14 ....

[Belexes]

pretty sure I will take the CA-9100 and only 1/8 sockets and the low sensitive mode on my mices. Only thing I don't know yet is which mices to use. Everyone got his own favorites

853, 943, CA-11, CA-14 ....

I own them all accept the CA-11's.  I hate this hobby as it's too hard to decide on a favorite. 

[nameloc01]

FYI....the mice like full sensitivity

[SmokinJoe]

Go listen to the comparisons here, and let your ears decide for you.
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,115294.0.html

My guess is that you will like the CA14's, and there is a pair in the yard sale for about $99.
I did a comp this summer at Mountain Jam with CA14's and CA11's.  To make a long story short, they sound quite similar, but the CA14's are a little sweeter.

[Bury420]

Ok, love the CMC 8 result. Easiest and fastest way would to order it with the SPSB8 or is there anything speaking against this combi?

CMC8 ==> SPSB8 ==> R09HR

Problem is I need the stuff until March 1st and they need to be shipped to Germany.

[fmaderjr]

That'd make great recordings of moderately loud to very loud material I'm sure and you could always order a CA-9100 later if you think you'd like to try out a great preamp. If you ordered a CA-9100 now, unless Chris agreed to expedite it, you'd never get it by 3/1.

If you ever wanted to record acoustic stuff, having the preamp would be a big plus. The low sensitivity mod you're going to order will cost you around 10 dB of gain (but is necessary when recording very loud material). Though if you don't get a preamp, I guess you could just go mic in for acoustic.

[Bury420]

Sounds good to me. Yeah I will record 95 % loud stuff.

That's what I will do probably. Order will be placed in bout 2-3 hours. Hope I won't change the decision again But it's very expensive, gotta think about it really good.

[Bury420]

ok, what I've done:

- ordered the CMC 8 plus SPSB8

I will first try recording on the Zoom H2. If the results are as bad as everybody is saying (I think so because everybody is saying it) I will buy the Edirol R09RH as well. I'll try it first.

I still can order the CA-9100 afterwards if needed.

Thank you ALL very much for your help. Really nice how everybody's helping here!

[SmokinJoe]

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,116380.0.html

If that falls through timewise, consider the mics above.  There are lots of schematics on the web for making a battery box, and if you don't solder, you can probably find a buddy who does.

[fmaderjr]

I will first try recording on the Zoom H2. If the results are as bad as everybody is saying (I think so because everybody is saying it) I will buy the Edirol R09RH as well. I'll try it first.

If the Zoom doesn't distort, the recording will probably sound quite good. However, when recording extremely loud sources without a means of attenuating the signal (such using a CA-9100 preamp instead of a battery box), you could run into major distortion issues. Set the H2 to low and keep the level at 100. That way, if your meters are going over 0 dB you will know you are distorting. Then you can move away from the source and see if you can find a spot where the meters are peaking below 0 dB.

With a CA-9100 (or maybe even with just the MT 10 dB attenuator + battery box) you probably could make reliable recordings that sound quite good, but it would still be preferable to step up to an R09HR when you can.

[Bury420]

ok just couldn't let it be. My Edirol is here now.

SP stuff will arrive tommorrow.

[SmokinJoe]

Good! Now go practice at a loud local bar before you go to that big show in a couple of weeks.