Topic: software to track shows recorded digitally

[Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad)]

Can anyone recommend good software to use to easily track shows that are recorded digitally?  I use Home Studio now, and its a pain.  I need to go through and cut out each song individually and save each individually, then create a cd.  Is there anything out there that I can just insert track tags or something, save it and burn the whole thing at once?

[pfife]

I use soundforge using the region menus.

I have heard CDWave can be used, and I think its free, but I have never used it before.

[John R]

goldwave is what i use.

jr

[Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad)]

Can anyone recommend good software to use to easily track shows that are recorded digitally?  I use Home Studio now, and its a pain.  I need to go through and cut out each song individually and save each individually, then create a cd.  Is there anything out there that I can just insert track tags or something, save it and burn the whole thing at once?

[Brian Skalinder]

I like and use CD Wave.

[Humbug]

Heres another vote for CD Wave. Its very easy to use:

http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~mjmlooijmans/cdwave/

Also, once you've tracked the recording, you can save the cue sheet for future reference. Handy.

[pfife]

I am going to have to try CDWave, I think.  I like SF, but it takes a while to load and stuff.

The cue sheet takes editing afterwards, too...

[F.O.Bean]

cd wave cuts on sector boundaries too, use it and love it

[Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad)]

Hey Bean - I sent you an e-mail.  Hope you dont mind.....

Thanks guys - I am new to all of this, so I am struggling to learn/understand all the tech stuff!

[F.O.Bean]

haha, not at all bro, you can just as easily PM me here too

[Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad)]

haha, not at all bro, you can just as easily PM me here too

hehe - I am a moron, so I dont know how to do that......

[pfife]

haha, not at all bro, you can just as easily PM me here too

hehe - I am a moron, so I dont know how to do that......

click on their username on the left, scrool down, and you'll see a "send member a private message" link.  Self explanatory from there!

Your PM's can be accessed in the top right corner of the home page.

[F.O.Bean]

well, what if you open your original wav(off of jb3), open immediately in cdwave, put a marker at the beginning and end of each set, then resample/edit, then track in cdwave>FLAC

cause i for the life of me cant get shntool to work, i suck at dos

[mirth]

cdwave doesn't 'mess up' on the last track of a wav. 99% of the time when you hit the stop button you're not ending the recording on a sector boundry. The easiest way to take care of this is to drop a track marker 1ms before the end of your recording and then cut the file up. Delete the garbage track (I usually tell cdwave to name it trash or garbage or some crap like that) and yer done. Handy also that it can encode straight to flac. Purists will probably want to continue writing the wav tracks then encode as a later step...

I also like how cdwave can be used for *recording*. Since switching to cdwave from WaveLab for field recording I haven't had a failed session. W/WaveLab I'd periodically get glitches from closing the lid on my laptop, plus I'd encounter buffer underruns.

Now I rely on an external meter (SVU-1) and leave the lid closed once I hit record.

[Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad)]

okay - I downloaded Cd Wave.  I have a disc from one of our shows that is in .wav format already, and is not tracked.  I extracted it to CD Wave and when I play it, it plays at like 5 times the normal speed and has pops and clicks - what am I doing wrong?!?!?!

[F.O.Bean]

okay - I downloaded Cd Wave.  I have a disc from one of our shows that is in .wav format already, and is not tracked.  I extracted it to CD Wave and when I play it, it plays at like 5 times the normal speed and has pops and clicks - what am I doing wrong?!?!?!

did ya get my email mitchell

[F.O.Bean]

well, what if you open your original wav(off of jb3), open immediately in cdwave, put a marker at the beginning and end of each set, then resample/edit, then track in cdwave>FLAC

cause i for the life of me cant get shntool to work, i suck at dos

unless you throw out the very last track of output from cdwave you will have a boundary error with that last track...its really not a big deal that last track error (unless you are appending filler tracks after it)...but you should be CHECKING with shntool to make sure everything went correctly anyway

shntool is super easy to use..i'm betting the problems you are having is that you dont have shntool and related files on your PATH so when you type "shntool" it gives you a "command not found" type of error

you can download the shntool package and copy all the files into a directory that is already on your path (like c:\windows\system32 or c:\winnt\system32) and you should be able to call the shntool command from a command line started anywhere

or grab my shnizzle package which has some other scripts and commands you need to do SHN/FLAC related stuff as well as the straight shntool fixing..follow the install instructions and you should be good to go

http://www.geocities.com/boogieshafer/shnizzle


boogie

yeah, i trash the beginning and end of each set, would that result in a sector boundary on the 'last' track still once i go back and track it

i have shntool on my comp, ive tried it and i have had NO success

but i will try again right now

[F.O.Bean]

yeah, thats shntool stuff is way over my head, it looks like another language to me, i know PC's but NOT DOS

[Gordon]

yeah, thats shntool stuff is way over my head, it looks like another language to me, i know PC's but NOT DOS

i think i sense some deep seeded fear of command line

its simple

copy shntool into your windows\system32 directory and then type "shntool' at a command prompt...if that works try this
'shntool len *.wav' == translation "give me a shntool listing of all wav files in the current directory"

if that shows errors run
'shntool fix *.wav'

do it once and you will see its not some scary "language", but an invaluable tool

boogie

or you can set it up with batch files and NEVER have to type any commands.  all I hav eot do id right click > shn/flac length > fix and a few others are there and work great.  Joe W can point you towards the batch files.  Bean I had a REAL hard time getting shntool to work.  all the "in your path" shit got me confused as hell.  hit me up if you need a few pointers.

[pfife]

and soundforge loaded up with waves mastering bundle is the way to go for editing/mastering.

waves is very cool.  I use the ultra-maximizers for my multi-track recording, and have run it on a few tapes, but I try to stay away from it on the tapes, but it does make things sound really, really good.

great peice of software.

[MattD]

Even as someone familiar with command line, I wish SHNtool's internal help function told me what the cryptic output of the "problems" column was. I always end up looking up the damn thing online.

[mirth]

bean = the answer to your question is no, you shouldn't have any problems doing that - although you don't necessarily need to do a garbage first track.... its impossible to not *start* on a sector boundry.

[Mitchell (Jake and Sawyer's Dad)]

okay - I downloaded Cd Wave.  I have a disc from one of our shows that is in .wav format already, and is not tracked.  I extracted it to CD Wave and when I play it, it plays at like 5 times the normal speed and has pops and clicks - what am I doing wrong?!?!?!

did ya get my email mitchell

Yeah - I responded to it.

[F.O.Bean]

bean = the answer to your question is no, you shouldn't have any problems doing that - although you don't necessarily need to do a garbage first track.... its impossible to not *start* on a sector boundry.

mirth, +T buddy, thanks

[Gordon]

all I do is make a very short track at the end and not save it.  then check it with shntool and have never had a problem.