Topic: What are BK 4011???

[slightlys]

I know they  are mics but made by who? I just picked up a '93 phish show taped with some of these and it hard for me to belive its not a soundboard recording! Its is so clear and detailed! blows my mind!

[dgodwin]

B & K, as in Brüel & Kjaer.  Now DPA (danish pro Audio)  As seen here   Nice mics!

[slightlys]

they are listed at $1900 each ouch! it sucks being broke

[plucks]

I know they are mics but made by who? I just picked up a '93 phish show taped with some of these and it hard for me to belive its not a soundboard recording! Its is so clear and detailed! blows my mind!

It has been agreed upon that while B&K/DPAs may not be as forgiving and therefore consistent as Neumann/Schoeps/AkG, when it all works out, the DPAs will usually blow just about anything out of the water.  When you say it sounds like a soundboard, its not entirely surprising. 

They are expensive, but right now with the way the Euro v Dollar is, most mics have had a price increase in the States.  They are worth the price if you want to invest tho. 

I can't wait to join team DPA one of these days.

[heath]

I can't wait to join team DPA one of these days.

qft

[muj]

you can try the gefell m294/295 to get a similar sound or the sanken cu-31's.

not sure if they are cheaper..but you should find them used somewhere on the wen

[Swanny]

If you are going to buy, get the 402x series. They sound the same but are much smaller.

[Nick's Picks]

I dont think they sound the same as the 4011.
but thats me.

Personaly, I dont like them.  But I have doezens of amazing...astounding AUD sources from them.
funny...I still dont like them.

they are dry sounding to me.  I like a sloppy wet neumann sound.

[Zee]

I dont think they sound the same as the 4011.
but thats me.

Personaly, I dont like them.  But I have doezens of amazing...astounding AUD sources from them.
funny...I still dont like them.

they are dry sounding to me.  I like a sloppy wet neumann sound.

I dont like the 4011s either the 402X series sound a lot better to me. I could be bias but what ever you like what you like....

[leegeddy]

..... I like a sloppy wet neumann sound.

 

me too.

marc

[marc0789]

I dont think they sound the same as the 4011.
but thats me.

Personaly, I dont like them.  But I have doezens of amazing...astounding AUD sources from them.
funny...I still dont like them.

they are dry sounding to me.  I like a sloppy wet neumann sound.

doug had a comment awhile back that he agrees the 4011 and 402x do not sound the same. I agree. I ran the 4011's and I think the bodyless have a bit more warmth and forgiveness...a bit, but enough to make a difference.

I dont like the 4011s either the 402X series sound a lot better to me. I could be bias but what ever you like what you like....

[Nick's Picks]

well, no doubt, the 4011/4022s rock, no matter who likes/dislikes them, they are a benchmark cardioid mic.  I still can't believe the bottom end of a 40hz 4011.  amazing

[JasonSobel]

I still can't believe the bottom end of a 40hz 4011.  amazing

as I'm sure you know, though, the mic does pick up sounds below 40Hz, just not within their +/- 2dB spec for the mic.  and when publishing specs for the mic, they preferred to say 40Hz-20kHz +/-2dB  instead of 20Hz-20kHz +/- 8dB or whatever happens to the frequency response below 40Hz.  while the graph just stops at 40, I wonder how steeply (or not) they actually drop off. 

[Nick's Picks]

i didn't know that.
+T !

[Tim]

me neither

good stuff, thanks Jason