Topic: Fades?? End of set or end of show??

[chrisdavis]

Just curious what everybody around here thinks.  I think fade in at the  beginning of show, and fade out at end of show is the way to do it.  Or, should i add fades at beginning and end of sets??  What say you TS??

[Roving Sign]

Just curious what everybody around here thinks.  I think fade in at the  beginning of show, and fade out at end of show is the way to do it.  Or, should i add fades at beginning and end of sets??  What say you TS??

I've quit using fades - most of the time I can get away with merely tracking in CD Wave...so I've started skipping the fades. I only use them if I have to - say if missed the first part of a song...or if the crowd/band is particularly loud at the start of the show. Basically I use them to cover any abrupt openings or endings...but usually its quiet enough at the beginning and ends of shows to skip the fade..of course this will vary based on the material you record.

[eric.B]

Just curious what everybody around here thinks.  I think fade in at the  beginning of show, and fade out at end of show is the way to do it.  Or, should i add fades at beginning and end of sets??  What say you TS??

I've quit using fades - most of the time I can get away with merely tracking in CD Wave...so I've started skipping the fades. I only use them if I have to - say if missed the first part of a song...or if the crowd/band is particularly loud at the start of the show. Basically I use them to cover any abrupt openings or endings...but usually its quiet enough at the beginning and ends of shows to skip the fade..of course this will vary based on the material you record.

this is what Ive been doing as well..

[Craig T]

beginning and ending of each set.

[boojum]

I use fades at the beginning and end of the set and at the end of each track.  If it is a concert I will just do the fade at the beginning and end of the set.  When I track fade I take out all the in-between chatter so one tune blends into the next, but that is non-concert. 

[chrisdavis]

Just curious what everybody around here thinks.  I think fade in at the  beginning of show, and fade out at end of show is the way to do it.  Or, should i add fades at beginning and end of sets??  What say you TS??

I've quit using fades - most of the time I can get away with merely tracking in CD Wave...so I've started skipping the fades. I only use them if I have to - say if missed the first part of a song...or if the crowd/band is particularly loud at the start of the show. Basically I use them to cover any abrupt openings or endings...but usually its quiet enough at the beginning and ends of shows to skip the fade..of course this will vary based on the material you record.

this is what Ive been doing as well..

yep, this is my preference as well.  i dont like to add the fades at the end of each set due to concept of "seamless" media (or at least my concept of it) but, i am transferring the tapes of others, and want to be as silky as possible for the benefit of hard working tapers...

ok, cool, thanks for your advice and opinions!!  T's all around...Cd

[JasonSobel]

yep, this is my preference as well.  i dont like to add the fades at the end of each set due to concept of "seamless" media (or at least my concept of it) but, i am transferring the tapes of others, and want to be as silky as possible for the benefit of hard working tapers...

ok, cool, thanks for your advice and opinions!!  T's all around...Cd

I say fades at the start/end of each set.  after all, set 2 is not "continously seamless" from set 1.  That said, you're the one putting in the time and effort, set it up however you think is best.  If the beginning and end crowd noise isn't too loud, maybe a fade isn't needed.  Dave isn't too picky about little details like these, he's just happy someone is transferring his tapes

[Brian Skalinder]

I say fades at the start/end of each set.  after all, set 2 is not "continously seamless" from set 1.

Same here.  Fades make for more pleasant listening, IMO.

[dmccabe]

I like fades as well... beginning and end of each set. Easier on the ears...

When someone grabs the mic stand and yells into your mics... I fade quicker.

[Belexes]

I start recordings prior to the band walking out and don't stop recording until the encore applause is complete.  That being said, I have never seen the appeal for fades unless, as a post above mentions, abrupt starts/stops.

[Krispy D]

Small hijack:  When you guys are fading, is there a standard time that you like to use to ramp in and out?  Do you use a 0 to 100 staight ramp or do you use a soft ramp up via an envelope?  I'm sort of hovering around a 3-4 second soft ramp in with a 5-7 ramp out. 

5 sec soft ramp in and out for me.

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[Josephine]

All my recordings are faded.   

[boojum]

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Small hijack:  When you guys are fading, is there a standard time that you like to use to ramp in and out?  Do you use a 0 to 100 staight ramp or do you use a soft ramp up via an envelope?  I'm sort of hovering around a 3-4 second soft ramp in with a 5-7 ramp out. 

Carry on

I fade two seconds in the front and five in the back.  Same for the beginning and end of the set, if it is not a concert.  Concerts have no fades between tracks, rock concerts that is.  Classical music fades between movements/parts always and the beginning and end. 

[Krispy D]

All my recordings are faded.   

I think I am a little faded...