Topic: What's next from Sony?

[colargol]

Hi!

I'm excited to see when and what Sony comes up with next... They've come out with some quite nice phones and other stuff lately, and it's been quite a while since their latest audio recorder came out.

PCM-M10 - October 2009
PCM-D50 - March 2008 (?)
PCM-D1 - ? 2007 (?)

I'm very happy with my PCM-M10, but I am eager to see if they can top that one... I have tried several other brands, but for my purpose Sony always seems to have the better product...
I guess no one here knows anything?

-colargol

[F.O.Bean]

I am very curious too. Who knows what will come out next

[H₂O]

A video recorder?


They haven't come out with a PRO level audio recorder since the D1 and before that was the d10 pro ii (which dates back to early to mid 90's)


Sony's efforts seem to be more in video realm

[Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)]

I'm pretty happy with the M10 but if I'd like to see what they could come up with for a 4 channel recorder with at least 2 channels of phantom power.

I like my DR-680, but if I could run 4 channels with the reliability of the M10, I'd be a happy man. I'm always a little edgy about running the DR-680 (although personally I've never had a problem with it).

[F.O.Bean]

I'm pretty happy with the M10 but if I'd like to see what they could come up with for a 4 channel recorder with at least 2 channels of phantom power.

I like my DR-680, but if I could run 4 channels with the reliability of the M10, I'd be a happy man. I'm always a little edgy about running the DR-680 (although personally I've never had a problem with it).

I always thought the dr680 was finicky, and it was for awhile, but after recording next to tonedeaf and his 680, I would have no problem running one. This fall I'm def going to get a dr680 so I can run mk4/mk41 comps easily

[Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)]

Yep. Even though the DR-680 has a rep for being finicky I haven't run into a problem.

It's EASILY worth the $430 it's going for now. I only run mine when I'm running 4+ channels which isn't often because I'm usually happy with 2 channels of AUD when I can't get a SBD feed. The only time I'll run 4 channels with mics is outside/FOB when I'll run my CK930's + MCE400's and even then I'll usually only use the CK930's about half the time.

That being said I'm much more confident running the M10. It's very nice to know I can fire it up, hit record, set my levels and close up my bag until the end of the show and know I'll have a good recording at the end of the night.

[Gutbucket]

Another ill-fated media format for which they'll refuse to admit defeat and will attempt to keep alive well past its sell-by date?

[F.O.Bean]

100% agreed. I won't use the 680 unless I'm running mk4/mk41/SBD on 6 channels!!! Otherwise, the mk4/mk41 on (2) M10s is just fine for me since I never matrix (2) DAUD sources together

[carpa]

I can't imagine what future Sony plans will be....but I think the real bet will be in consumer and pro-sumer video-recorders.

If you remember what happened in the  audio field , the first was Zoom and then Edirol, Tascam, Olympus, Sony, Marantz and many others came out with pocket handhelds in order to provide a better quality than minidisc ( or easier use then DAT) for musicians, tapers ecc.

Next step from these brands was adding more channel and/or  xlr inputs in order to improve flexibility and pro-leve connections to their gear. Some of them (pcm m-10  and Edirol r09hr) had a convenient plus in a line-input accepting quite hot signals and thus allowing to be use either as a standalone piece or coupled with an external pre as an alternative to a single recorder equipped with xlr.


In video recording we are, IMHO, at the very first step with Zoom, Olympus and now Tascam. If you want a real professional video you need two or more different camcorders and separate audio, but we are very far from an easy-to-use setup.
Handheld video recorder I mentioned don't have a real better video quality than a good cell phone, they are horrible in low light conditions and, on the audio side, they have a line input which is pretty unusable due to a -10 or -6 nominal level.

I recently recorded this clip   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lGgTitxHyY    with a 250Euros or so Canon camcorder and separate audio on a Mac. It's not a professional video, I know, but its decent for a promotional clip.

If somebody will sell a product with a similar video quality and good sound ( like sony pcm-10 or similar) he will sell an enormous quantity!
Thus you could have either a decent video clip ready to be used or to mix with a video shooted from a second camcorder.

Is it asking too much?
 

[noahbickart]

All I want is an m10 with a spdif input.

[udovdh]

An M10 with PIP on the LINE IN, selectable between 3-9V.

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Another ill-fated media format for which they'll refuse to admit defeat and will attempt to keep alive well past its sell-by date?

winner

All I want is an m10 with a spdif input.

+1. I have a D50, but the optical piece bothers me. I don't know if I'd prefer it over that micro-trrs jack that the newest tascam uses though. (a full sized implementation is unlikely at best...)

An M10 with PIP on the LINE IN, selectable between 3-9V.

doubt it will happen. Too small of a market for such a feature compared to any downsides/flack from the odd settings.

[DSatz]

Sony--and I personally find this very hard to take after a long time of liking their stuff, but it is apparently true--has been having great difficulty making any kind of profit in electronics manufacturing for the past several years, and reportedly is under considerable pressure from investors to get out of the business and to focus on media production, which is apparently the only sector in which they've been making much money.

Their electronics product line is already much smaller than what I remember from decades past, and I haven't seen anything new from their pro audio division in a very long time.

[udovdh]

An M10 with PIP on the LINE IN, selectable between 3-9V.

doubt it will happen. Too small of a market for such a feature compared to any downsides/flack from the odd settings.

I can agree, but also there's no a mod to add PIP to line in...

[hi and lo]

An M10 with PIP on the LINE IN, selectable between 3-9V.

doubt it will happen. Too small of a market for such a feature compared to any downsides/flack from the odd settings.

I can agree, but also there's no a mod to add PIP to line in...

That's what a battery box is for. By definition, Line Inputs should not be providing PIP.