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H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« on: January 24, 2014, 02:57:34 PM »
Anyone else getting this issue?

Seems to come when the decibels are bouncing. I don't hear it during music breaks or during quieter musical parts but when the music gets louder I just have random pops or electrical static ticks all over the recording.

ARRG! Any news on this?
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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 03:43:16 PM »
Could the USB battery pack somehow be underpowering the preamps? grrr  ???

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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 04:06:54 PM »
Ok so, the guy who patched from me said there are no artifacts on his pull.

SD card?

The self test says it's an ok card. Class 6 HCSD.

Any other variables I'm missing?
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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2014, 07:19:16 PM »
you say it happens when it's loud....overloading the preamps seems to be a possibility.  I know the older zooms that was one of the issues with them the preamps were easily overloaded. 

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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 09:12:41 PM »
If it was the preamp overloading wouldn't the artifacts still show up on the signal passed to the Line Out?
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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 12:04:05 AM »
Did you format the card in the H6?

Are the artifacts visible in the waveform when you examine the file in a DAW?

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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 12:07:41 PM »
Yeah, they are there but hard to dig out because they are in the noisiest parts of the recording.

Today I'm going to go buy a Class 10 SDXC and run 4 tracks at Railroad Earth. I'll report here on Monday if it worked.
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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 12:21:46 PM »
Yeah, they are there but hard to dig out because they are in the noisiest parts of the recording.

Today I'm going to go buy a Class 10 SDXC and run 4 tracks at Railroad Earth. I'll report here on Monday if it worked.

Went from 16 gig class 4's to 16 gig class 10's when the 4's gave me the slow memory problem, when recording 4-ch on my r-44......never had that problem ever again, on either of two machines.

It has been two years, now.

Not certain this was the direct cause, but it surely had a direct and bullteproof effect.

It has been hard to get some other tapers on this forum to digest this mounting empirical evidence --- they are still certain that memory speed makes no difference, and point to other things like card formatting, creating new files, deleting them, etc....

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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 01:51:45 PM »
Maybe the meters are innacurate though that would only be distortion. Try a different input and get it loud, see if it does the same thing. Was phantom on when powering it? That wasan error I made once. If you are patched to someone else make sure that's off.
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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 03:35:15 PM »
I shelled out for the Class 10 SanDisk SDHC, 4 tracks with no pops noticed so far!

thank goodness...  ;D
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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2014, 04:31:25 PM »
I shelled out for the Class 10 SanDisk SDHC, 4 tracks with no pops noticed so far!

thank goodness...  ;D

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Re: H6 pop/tick artifacts?
« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2014, 06:43:09 PM »
Hi. To the OP, some observations if I may:I've had 2 H6s. The first I had had a lot of crackles and pops when adjusting the volume knobs and one preamp caused a huge load of bass rumble when you turned it up. I had to swap it for a new one, since then no issues.
I use a sandisk xtreme 128 gig card. I don't tend to record in anything higher than 2 track with the internal mics at 24 bit 48, but sometimes I accidentely arm the other tracks without meaning to, so it might as well be recording 6 tracks. I've never noticed any pops or crackles on mine.
I do notice, if I'm monitoring and hit the record switch, a tiny digital noise that happens about half a second after the record is pressed. I should say I have the prebuffer on and I can never hear that artefact when I play it back, so it must be something souly in the monitor mix.
Finally, that internal mics gain knob, in fact all of them, are very deceptive, but particularly the one for the internals. With the internals it seems to creap the volume up very slowly from nothing to about 70% until you're almost at the top of the dial, then the final rotation does 30% really quickly. my point I guess is, I've been known to creap that volume up and up to get more level, and then find it clips badly if I'm not careful with it. AS a rule of thumb, I find it's best to keep them low and use the editor to raise the volume later. Also, do not use the pad switches, as I've noticed the noise flaw remains the same despite the fact the input level drops when they're engaged.
HOpe some of that helped.

 

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