Topic: 24/96 vs. 24/88.2 ???

[gratefulphish]

Not sure whether this belongs here or on the recording gear page.

What do people prefer.  We are already "oversampling" and I have been told that 88.2 makes the ultimate transition to CD easier.  Is this correct, or is there some reason to get those few extra samples?

[Roving Sign]

I always thought the math looked easier for 24/88

[cleantone]

yeah, if your goal is 96k, then record 96k. If your goal is 48k then record 96k (or 48k). If your goal is 44.1k then record 88.2k (or 44.1k). If your goal is 32k then you on the wrong website. 

[F.O.Bean]

i record at 24/44.1k alot of the time for ease of editing and have really never heard a huge diff when going 24/96/48/44.1k, maybe its just me. the much bigger jump was the 16>24-bit jump

If i ever get WL 6.0 i will def start record everything 24/96

and another reason, i have an 8GB CF Card and write to both the CF Card/INHDD at the same time and at 24/96 that only allows for 4 hrs, whereas when I did RAQ NYE run, i had to do 5 sets, so i ran 24/44.1k and had 8.44 hrs record time on the cf card too

[BC]

I have been told that 88.2 makes the ultimate transition to CD easier.  Is this correct?

yes. cleantone is right on here.

[gratefulphish]

yeah, if your goal is 96k, then record 96k. If your goal is 48k then record 96k (or 48k). If your goal is 44.1k then record 88.2k (or 44.1k). If your goal is 32k then you on the wrong website. 

But I get so much more time at 32K. 

[tim in jersey]

If i ever get WL 6.0 i will def start record everything 24/96

Why WL 6.0? Version 5.x has been doing the trick for me...

[Brian Skalinder]

If i ever get WL 6.0 i will def start record everything 24/96

Skip WL 6.0 and go for Samplitude 8 SE.    A whopping $50 or so for the single best audio editor I've found for my purposes.  A bit of a learning curve, but now that I have it figured out for my needs, it's a breeze and better than the other tools I've used (AA/CEP, WL, Audacity).

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

The main reason to go 96k is if you are authoring to DVDV and not DVDA.  DVDA DVDV will not support 88.2 LPCM.   If you are authoring your high res discs to DVDA, you can use whatever is convenient.  You might get a little extra bit of a show on your flash card if you use 88.2.

I realize that it may seem mathematically cleaner to downsample for CD from 88.2, but really the difference should be impercetible compared to the artifacts introduced by normalizing and then dithering to 16-bit.

Samplitude 8 SE.    A whopping $50 or so for the single best audio editor I've found for my purposes.

link?



edit to correct typo pointed out below, thanks jason  (damn tequilla and no proofreading are a poor mix)

[Brian Skalinder]

Samplitude 8 SE.    A whopping $50 or so for the single best audio editor I've found for my purposes.

link?

General:  http://www.samplitude.com/eng/sam/se.html
Order:  http://site.magix.net/index.php?id=19208&no_cache=1

Sorry, it's ~€49, no ~$50.  At current exchange rate, ~€49 = $64.  Still, a steal by any stretch of the imagination.  Object-oriented editing is the bee's knees.  Full multi-track capability, really nice sounding SRC and dither, fully compatible with plug-ins, etc.  I used to love Audition/CEP, tolerated Audacity, and never liked WaveLab.  Kicking myself for not switching to Samplitude SE sooner.

[rodeen]

I recently bought Samplitude 8.0 SE also and it works pretty well.  I need to RTFM to really get the hang of it.  I paid €49 for it but recently saw a different path to ordering that shows it as $49.  I didn't follow it all the way thru checkout but it is worth a shot.  €49 (~$64) is still really reasonable.

http://site.magix.net/english-us/home/professional/samplitude-v8-se/

[JasonSobel]

The main reason to go 96k is if you are authoring to DVDV and not DVDA.  DVDA will not support 88.2 LPCM.   If you are authoring your high res discs to DVDA, you can use whatever is convenient.

just to clarify a bit, DVD-Audio discs support just about any sample rate, including 88.2.  it's the DVD-Video discs that only support 48 or 96 kHz...

[gratefulphish]

The main reason to go 96k is if you are authoring to DVDV and not DVDA.  DVDA will not support 88.2 LPCM.   If you are authoring your high res discs to DVDA, you can use whatever is convenient.

just to clarify a bit, DVD-Audio discs support just about any sample rate, including 88.2.  it's the DVD-Video discs that only support 48 or 96 kHz...

Okay, as I have tried to make clear previously, I am just crawling out of the Neanderthal world of DAT taping, and going to the computer for the first time.  As I will apparently be needing to archive on DVD (and this is just how unknowledgable I am) are there separate DVDV and DVDA discs, which ift seems there are from this post.  If I decide to just go with DVDV, is there a difference between +R and -R discs, and if so, which is preferable?

I continue to thank each and every one of you for your reponses, comments, suggestions and help.  This board is an invaluable resource.

[gratefulphish]

Mine will support both.  Is one better than the other?  I have seen the preferred media list, but no reference to +R vs. -R.

[gratefulphish]

That brings up another question.   Are there any serious issues using external CD or DVD USB 2.0 burners, or hard drives for that matter?