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Title: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 04, 2009, 06:10:16 PM: does anybody know of any more affordable options to the Neumann KU 100 dummy head mic? tia.
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: J.T.L on April 04, 2009, 06:34:27 PM: (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/419uQtwu3XL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 04, 2009, 06:40:04 PM: what's the model number on the senn head Mike? JTL... 8)
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 04, 2009, 06:50:52 PM: is this the head you have Mike?
http://cgi.ebay.com/SENNHEISER-MZK-2002-Kunstkopf-Vintage-Dummy-Head-MKE_W0QQitemZ230334074472QQihZ013QQcategoryZ64449QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262?_trksid=p1742.m153.l1262 (http://cgi.ebay.com/SENNHEISER-MZK-2002-Kunstkopf-Vintage-Dummy-Head-MKE_W0QQitemZ230334074472QQihZ013QQcategoryZ64449QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262?_trksid=p1742.m153.l1262)
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 05, 2009, 01:14:17 PM: Quote from: Moke on April 05, 2009, 10:35:50 AM
wait just a god damned minute!!! :o
that one is stating that it is sold without the microphones - total ripoff! I read your post as I was heading out the door to a gig, and really didn't look at it well enough. sorry.
for the price that I see the BIN at,... you should be able to get the entire package, including the mics.
yeah i thought that was a tad bit high with no mics. ;)
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: illconditioned on April 05, 2009, 02:36:29 PM: I've got that mke2002. The mics it comes with are fine, but better options exist now. Now I use Sennheiser KE4 or Countryman B3 with it.

Richard
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 05, 2009, 02:40:06 PM: i was thinking about picking up one of these http://www.studiorox.com/display/image/head/EraGnew.html (http://www.studiorox.com/display/image/head/EraGnew.html) and rigging it up with my CA-14 omnis or some 4060s fixed right up against the ears. what do y'all think?
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 05, 2009, 02:53:13 PM: i'm interested in trying something different more than anything. i did the j-disc thing when i had 4060s but only a couple of times before i sold them.
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: John Willett on April 05, 2009, 03:22:58 PM: The Sennheiser MKE 2002 was discontinued over 20 years ago!

Personally - I have just bought a Schneider Disk (details HERE (http://www.mbho.de/pdf/oss_discs.pdf) - but be aware this libks to a pdf).

I will use this with a pair of good omnis.

I will actually be using it in London tomorrow for a special recording - I will use either the Neumann KM 183-D or Sennheiser MKH 20 - will decide which when I get there.
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: illconditioned on April 05, 2009, 03:57:52 PM: Quote from: John Willett on April 05, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
The Sennheiser MKE 2002 was discontinued over 20 years ago!

Personally - I have just bought a Schneider Disk (details HERE (http://www.mbho.de/pdf/oss_discs.pdf) - but be aware this libks to a pdf).

I will use this with a pair of good omnis.

I will actually be using it in London tomorrow for a special recording - I will use either the Neumann KM 183-D or Sennheiser MKH 20 - will decide which when I get there.
Do you know the price of that Schnieder disc? I'm considering making one of these, but may just buy if the price is right. Is there an MBHO dealer in North America?

Thanks,
Richard
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 05, 2009, 04:23:18 PM: Quote from: illconditioned on April 05, 2009, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: John Willett on April 05, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
The Sennheiser MKE 2002 was discontinued over 20 years ago!

Personally - I have just bought a Schneider Disk (details HERE (http://www.mbho.de/pdf/oss_discs.pdf) - but be aware this libks to a pdf).

I will use this with a pair of good omnis.

I will actually be using it in London tomorrow for a special recording - I will use either the Neumann KM 183-D or Sennheiser MKH 20 - will decide which when I get there.
Do you know the price of that Schnieder disc? I'm considering making one of these, but may just buy if the price is right. Is there an MBHO dealer in North America?

Thanks,
Richard

i just checked. it's about 240.00 usd
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 05, 2009, 04:25:09 PM: Quote from: illconditioned on April 05, 2009, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: John Willett on April 05, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
The Sennheiser MKE 2002 was discontinued over 20 years ago!

Personally - I have just bought a Schneider Disk (details HERE (http://www.mbho.de/pdf/oss_discs.pdf) - but be aware this libks to a pdf).

I will use this with a pair of good omnis.

I will actually be using it in London tomorrow for a special recording - I will use either the Neumann KM 183-D or Sennheiser MKH 20 - will decide which when I get there.
Do you know the price of that Schnieder disc? I'm considering making one of these, but may just buy if the price is right. Is there an MBHO dealer in North America?

Thanks,
Richard

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Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: John Willett on April 05, 2009, 07:36:31 PM: Quote from: dennisrtyler on April 05, 2009, 04:23:18 PM
Quote from: illconditioned on April 05, 2009, 03:57:52 PM
Quote from: John Willett on April 05, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
The Sennheiser MKE 2002 was discontinued over 20 years ago!

Personally - I have just bought a Schneider Disk (details HERE (http://www.mbho.de/pdf/oss_discs.pdf) - but be aware this libks to a pdf).

I will use this with a pair of good omnis.

I will actually be using it in London tomorrow for a special recording - I will use either the Neumann KM 183-D or Sennheiser MKH 20 - will decide which when I get there.
Do you know the price of that Schnieder disc? I'm considering making one of these, but may just buy if the price is right. Is there an MBHO dealer in North America?

Thanks,
Richard

i just checked. it's about 240.00 usd

You're lucky - with the exchange rate it's much cheaper for you.

In the UK it's about that in £.

But it's a great disk.
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: Kindguy on April 09, 2009, 10:29:23 PM: Dennis I have a dummy head you can have for free.

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,88780.0.html

remember mary ann
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 09, 2009, 10:49:38 PM: Quote from: Kindguy on April 09, 2009, 10:29:23 PM
Dennis I have a dummy head you can have for free.

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,88780.0.html

remember mary ann
;D yeah i remember her. thanks Jeff. i'll be in touch. see you in OB.
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: digifish_music on April 10, 2009, 01:38:06 AM: Quote from: dennisrtyler on April 04, 2009, 06:10:16 PM
does anybody know of any more affordable options to the Neumann KU 100 dummy head mic? tia.

yes, try baffled Omni's or cards...

(http://www.trackseventeen.com/images/mic_arrays/mic_rigs_07.jpg) (http://www.trackseventeen.com/images/mic_arrays/mic_rigs_08.jpg)

Simple, very inexpensive and the results are excellent. More info...

http://www.trackseventeen.com/mic_rigs.html

http://diystereoboundarymics.blogspot.com/

IMO...omnis in these configurations sound awesome, you get the great low end response of the omni and better stereo separation than a card...

Even a cardboard box works wonders...

(http://www.digifishmusic.com/public/images/Freesound_LakeEacham.jpg)

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=57668

http://www.freesound.org/samplesViewSingle.php?id=57609

digifish
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: Brian Skalinder on April 10, 2009, 08:08:34 AM: Quote from: dennisrtyler on April 04, 2009, 06:10:16 PM
does anybody know of any more affordable options to the Neumann KU 100 dummy head mic? tia.

Couple DIY jobbers linked here: http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,5231.msg52779.html#msg52779
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: kgreener on April 10, 2009, 09:56:20 AM: and don't forget, for a cool $2400 you can have this one too:

http://www.mercenary.com/tbsbi3dresp.html

http://www.theaudio.com/PDF/BS-3Dnew.pdf

T.H.E. BS-3D Binaural 3D Recording Sphere
Title: Re: Any Neumann KU 100(Dummy Head Mic) Alternatives?
Post by: dennisrtyler on April 10, 2009, 11:05:09 AM: good info y'all. thanks!