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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #240 on: June 07, 2007, 12:02:04 PM »
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indeed.
well, you asked.

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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #241 on: June 07, 2007, 09:17:06 PM »
this rec is just awsome, love dsd and dont want decimated pcm ever again.
yes you can hear so much more, it is true.
its the best thing ive bought all year by far.
dsd now is slowly moving forward with more options. the format will bloom
its that good, well done korg.


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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #242 on: June 07, 2007, 09:59:58 PM »
I think I am going to get one in the next week or so.

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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #243 on: June 07, 2007, 11:00:42 PM »
Wondering if I understand this DSD audio enough to ask if DSD files can be directly used to make SACD of comparable quality to the original DSD audio?

If so, maybe SACD edit/burn software is available costing a lot less than the recently introduced 'player'?  All this in the hope of having playable portable media made direct from DSD. 
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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #244 on: June 08, 2007, 07:35:52 AM »
the SACD authoring software that exists (afaik) costs BIG bucks..., the kind of money a studio working w/this technology would have to plunk down.

if said software was available, it would be just like burning PCM to disc.  nothing lost or gained, just playable media.  I would love that to come through.
Come on' Korg!!!!!

SACD is Sony/Philips.  the chances of it appearing on the consumer market (editors, authoring.etc) are slim to none, i'd guess. 

the DSD protocol is a little more open...owned by Sony/Philips/and some Japaneses scientists.  Perhaps the WSD protocol will be a little more of a viable option (I dont know the nuts and bolts of the difference, its the same resoution...probably the equiv. of a .bwf file vs. .wav.

Now, i may be incorrect in my info here, but this is how I understand it.

Playback options suck.
1. dither to PCM, it does sound great...but i'd rather listen to the raw DSD files as they sound better.
2. play files off the deck.  MR1 sucks.  still sounds great, but I know it is using inferior parts in this signal path.  MR1k, no comment...but I would assume its a little better on the playback side of things. 
3. Tascam DSD recorder...can't recall the model, the "1000".  this can be had w/a hard drive in it and I bet it would make a wonderful "deck" for storing and playing these raw files.  I dont know if its networked though..which would be VERY cool.
4. I'm sure there are sound cards out there that support DSD/WSD and any other 1bit format.  But finding them...and affording them...that is the next step in my research.

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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #245 on: June 08, 2007, 10:45:51 AM »
My R-09 isn't going to get much use now.
Next week i'm going to split the signal and
run the R-09 alongside the MR-1 for a show.
Who wants to bet the MR-1 > dff > redbook
sounds better than the R-09 > 24/44.1

I'd really love to hear that comp.  I'm using the R-09 now and I'm pleased with it, but I'm open to improvement while keeping the similar size and functionality.

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Can't understand why more people aren't using these?
Is it the additional software thats needed? A 2 year old could
use Audiogate it's that easy.

My personal reasons:  I guess the internal battery is OK, but I still prefer the AA's like in the R-09 for and all day/weekend events and for power security.  Just keep an extra pair of AA's in the bag just in case.

The not so open file format is one detractor for me.  The Korg only software as the only way to convert the files to open formats is another.  The increased storage space of a bigger master along with additional converted 'open format' PCM versions is also an issue for me, but is least important.  Ease of use of the software is not much of a concern.  Playback and editing is crucial.

Positive T's to all you early adopters,  I'm really intrigued by the technology and I haven't even listened to any DSD yet.
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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #246 on: June 08, 2007, 10:49:02 AM »
nor will you unless you have one of these decks.
(for all the reasons listed above). 

sure  you can buy SACDs, but its not the same as a concert master from your own hands.
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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #247 on: June 08, 2007, 12:46:25 PM »
nor will you unless you have one of these decks.
(for all the reasons listed above). 

sure  you can buy SACDs, but its not the same as a concert master from your own hands.

Ain't that the truth!  Honestly, though I own some 'dual play' Redbook/SACD's I haven't listened to SACD either since I don't have a SACD capable player.  But then I can't focus on playback toys or improvements until I have a functioning kitchen again.  ;)
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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #248 on: June 08, 2007, 12:48:47 PM »
My MR-1 is being shipped today :) I am pretty happy about this.. A friend of mine has one brand new out of the box never used it. He is sending it to me to check out / buy from him.. So what do I need to know about this thing? battery life how is it? etc etc....

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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #249 on: June 08, 2007, 02:19:49 PM »
I power mine with a tekkeon battery as the internal is only good for about 2 hours. Maybe a little more if you turn off all the leds (another nice feature). You may as well grab the software/firmware updates from korg while you are waiting.. http://www.korg.com/service/downloads.asp?A_PROD_NO=MR1

You are also going to want a couple of balanced mini cables for the inputs..
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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #250 on: June 08, 2007, 03:14:23 PM »
I hear Hydra-Audio sells them.
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in fact, I just rebuilt my personal pair, and have a nice 1m set w/cut down XLRs on the female side and RA neutrick minis.
I now build them w/a custom molded dual mini TRS plug instead of seperates.  lower profile.  better fit.

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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #251 on: June 09, 2007, 09:46:48 AM »
I just posted my thoughts on DSD to 16 bit in the comp that Nick & I did last week. Here is the link:

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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #252 on: June 10, 2007, 03:00:58 PM »
I hear Hydra-Audio sells them.
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in fact, I just rebuilt my personal pair, and have a nice 1m set w/cut down XLRs on the female side and RA neutrick minis.
I now build them w/a custom molded dual mini TRS plug instead of seperates.  lower profile.  better fit.


admit it, you got that idea from my r-09 jack solution. ;D
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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #253 on: June 10, 2007, 03:21:06 PM »
admit it, you got that idea from my r-09 jack solution. ;D

admit it, you got that idea from my mt jack solution ;D

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Re: Korg MR-1
« Reply #254 on: June 10, 2007, 08:10:00 PM »
nope...sorry.
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