Topic: pre's for TL's?

[nic]

hmmm, I've never completely understood how a A/D could add *color* to a signal.

just wish I didnt have to worry about portable gear...I LOVE the sound my ART T.P.S.-> MOTU828 gives to the TL's, but its not practical to carry a 3U rack around everywhere

[Tim]

really? The Apogee a/d's certainly have their own "color". It comes from the dither algorithm and opamps. SBM has a "sound", as do all of the settings on the ad2k.

[nic]

bear in mind that the only "portable" rig I've ever run was AKG 391> PS2> AD20> D8/M1.
made a few GREAT tapes with that!

had always thought the "color" was coming from the pre

[Tim]

sure, I understand. It's hard to really get a good grasp on gear until you put your hands on it and run it, I've run or owned a ton of different gear. Good luck..

[hoobash]

I have been running mine with a mp2 and it sounds nice. I wouldnt mind getting a v2

[Tim]

Yeah I guess I should sort of preface my answer. the only TL tapes I've heard actually are Moke's which are tlII->V3... they smoke.

and I think the sax is a good pre with the right gear.

I'm just very fond of the V2->MiniMe sound. With my mics the only thing that surpasses it (to me) on a consistent basis is m148->minime. Different gear sounds good in different situations. At times I've loved the V3 and even straight minime.

But with your budget I think the most versatile rig would be v2->minime.

also, the minime pre isn't *that* bad. It's as good as many mid-range pre's and certainly better than the Beyer etc.

good luck, don't be scared if you buy something and don't care for it resale value holds up quite nicely!

[chase]

also, the minime pre isn't *that* bad. It's as good as many mid-range pre's and certainly better than the Beyer etc.

would you say that the mp-2 is lumped into that mid-range group or is it better than the mme's pre?

[Tim]

I'd say it's pretty close, I only have limited usage of the mp2 though and it's been awhile.

if you added a minime to your rig I would keep the mp2 for a while...

[Craig T]

Doesn't Jason Barbour run tl's>v2>mme?  Some of the recordings he's sent me are excellent.  Seemed to have a bit more punch than tl's>v3, but hard to say since I never heard a direct comparison.  Try to find some of his recordings.  I run tl's>v3 or wmod-ua5 and love both combos.

[Tim]

yes!

Jason B, where are you?

[Swanny]

I ran TL > V2 > AD1k for a while if you want some .flac or DAT.

[Swanny]

Anyone interested in putting together some comps of different Pre/ADs with the TL's? PM me if you have different sources than TL > V3 or TL > V2 > AD1k (I already have good examples of those.)

[DaryanLenz]

You can send me your tl's and I will run a couple different pres with them if you want.  Just throwing that out there.  If they need some warmth, get a mme.  If they6 don't, get a v2/3

Daryan

[jpschust]

D- you forgot the amount of warmth the v3 adds in its A/D stage.  It can bring those up nice and warm.  As far as the pre side goes for the grace stuff, its transformerless and very transparent.  

[Tim]

from the ad nauseum Grac'ogee discussions going on, it sounds like a V2>mme would be the shit!

sorry, didn't mean to beat it into the ground... I just really like the combo