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Title: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: stantheman1976 on August 02, 2008, 10:26:05 AM
When I power on my D50 with a memory stick in it comes up with "Unknown Media".  I press the stop button and it goes the the main screen and will record onto the stick or internal memory as normal but I was wondering if there is a specific reason it gives this message and if I can get rid of it.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: stantheman1976 on August 02, 2008, 08:03:49 PM
I'm assuming it gives this message because I'm using a regular MS Pro Duo and not one of the newer types that are supposed to be used with the D50.  Will there be any danger of corrupted files or anything else using a regular stick?
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Sermon8r on August 02, 2008, 10:20:01 PM
I am interested too. Mine does, or at least did, the same thing. For some reason it stopped displaying the message.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: headroom on August 03, 2008, 04:27:18 AM
Hi folks I use Sandiks Ultra II 4 GB on 2 Devices  PCM D-50 since Januar not one file was damaged, just press press play and you go.
 
SONY is whacky protecting the sales of there Microsticks and makes the costumers a bit.... &(&/(/)(?)=?`=(+
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Sermon8r on August 03, 2008, 07:52:18 AM
Yeah, kind of what I figured. Thanks.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Md2545 on August 05, 2008, 06:25:54 PM
In the manual is says


UNKNOWN MEDIA: The "Memory Stick" not supported is inserted. Use a "Memory Stick" that the recorder supports. We cannot guarentee operations with unknown media

can you even get to the menu screen to format it? I used a friends card once and it said the same thing but I formatted it and it worked fine for the show.

what I'm wondering is if you can use a 8 gig card in the unit. I asked the guy at the store if it would work and he stated that the machine might only support the 4 gig card, has anyone tried this.

Hope it works out.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: stantheman1976 on August 05, 2008, 09:42:55 PM
I have an 8GB card but I have not had the chance to use it all yet.  The recorder recognizes the stick fine after it show the unknown media message.  It seems like that it just some automatic message that comes up but doesn't actually affect the performance as far as I can tell.  With an 8GB card set to 44.1/24 bit I'm showing about 8 1/2 hours left with a couple things already on the card so I must assume that it is being recognized and used fully.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: mattw on October 31, 2008, 04:43:08 AM
I've used a Sandisk Ultra II 8GB card since I bought my D50 earlier this year and have not had a single problem with it.

I do wish I could remove the "unknown media" message though. Its just another uneeded button press. I'd love to see a firmware update address this...but, being Sony I seriously doubt that will ever happen  :(

Now, if I could just hack these dang microphones off the top of this thing, the recorder would be perfect!  :D
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: headroom on October 31, 2008, 04:45:41 AM
Its not possible for the D50 to have a Firmware Upgrade, its a closed black box....
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: stantheman1976 on October 31, 2008, 09:19:57 AM
Firmware upgrades involve software writing new information onto an internal chip of the device.  You don't actually have to open the device.  I don't know if Sony has plans for firmware updates or if it's even possible with the D50 since all you see when it's plugged is a removable drive.  A firmware update for the D50 would probably have to be a self-installing executable file or something similar.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: headroom on October 31, 2008, 09:26:48 AM
I have the service manual I checked it with SONY. I its not possible beleve me no Flashrom. Is a closed box as the D1 where never was an Update, these 2 machines are finished products not like Microtrack`s
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: stantheman1976 on October 31, 2008, 09:30:38 AM
I have the service manual I checked it with SONY. I its not possible beleve me no Flashrom. Is a closed box as the D1 where never was an Update, these 2 machines are finished products not like Microtrack`s

OK.  By closed box you meant no way to flash the internal chips.  I just misunderstood the original wording.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: headroom on October 31, 2008, 09:40:39 AM
Yes not possible they meda a lot of beta testing before they go to the market and it`s martured product with no "flaws" heheheh exept to generate sales 4 Sony MS Styx! I miss a Play knob on the remote. And I have to cancel the unknown unfriendly message to- All the time cchchchrrrrr........
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: spcyrfc on December 01, 2008, 01:57:58 PM
any news on using sandisk 8 gig cards to full capacity?
any problems orther than the start up screen?
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: stantheman1976 on December 01, 2008, 03:18:00 PM
I let it run to capacity at 24/96 to test it and didn't have any errors.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Falconidave on December 22, 2008, 08:56:07 PM
I just received my D50 earlier this week, lovin' it!!  I purchased a Sandisk 8GB Ultra II PRO DUO 15mb/s from buy.com for $53. and just put it in my D50.  NO error message, I repeat, NO error message, it did blink twice with the "accessing media" screen but gave me no error message whatsoever.  I went through the menu and formatted the card, again, no problem, and ran a 10 minute record test at 24/48, no problems again.  It shows 7h 46m 27s as far as remaining time. 

Only one issue, is anyone else have a little trouble pulling out the card with their fingertips??  I had to use tweezers to grab hold of it with that access door opened up. I am looking forward to a field test with my new CA-14 cards and a CA 9100 this weekend...
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: jlykos on December 29, 2008, 09:57:14 AM
To chime in on this thread, I have a 16 GB Sony Memory Stick PRO Duo Mark 2 and it works perfectly without any error screens or anything of the sort.  It reads the time remaining fine and shows up on the little bar on the lower right corner of the D50 screen.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Falconidave on December 31, 2008, 01:12:14 AM
To chime in on this thread, I have a 16 GB Sony Memory Stick PRO Duo Mark 2 and it works perfectly without any error screens or anything of the sort.  It reads the time remaining fine and shows up on the little bar on the lower right corner of the D50 screen.

Very good to know.  Anyone know where the best price on one of these might be found??
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: jlykos on January 01, 2009, 03:44:57 PM
To chime in on this thread, I have a 16 GB Sony Memory Stick PRO Duo Mark 2 and it works perfectly without any error screens or anything of the sort.  It reads the time remaining fine and shows up on the little bar on the lower right corner of the D50 screen.

Very good to know.  Anyone know where the best price on one of these might be found??

I got mine a couple months ago from Adorama for around $100, shipping included.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Falconidave on January 01, 2009, 04:15:34 PM
To chime in on this thread, I have a 16 GB Sony Memory Stick PRO Duo Mark 2 and it works perfectly without any error screens or anything of the sort.  It reads the time remaining fine and shows up on the little bar on the lower right corner of the D50 screen.

Very good to know.  Anyone know where the best price on one of these might be found??

I got mine a couple months ago from Adorama for around $100, shipping included.

Just bought one last night on ebay from a guy in Canoga Park, CA for $45. and free shipping.  I made an offer on his $49.99 buy it now price.  I'd bet he'd for for $40. Damn good price.  Sony's website is now saying the the 16 GB Sony Memory Stick PRO Duo Mark 2 is compatable with the D50, sweet...
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Falconidave on January 07, 2009, 06:09:49 PM
To chime in on this thread, I have a 16 GB Sony Memory Stick PRO Duo Mark 2 and it works perfectly without any error screens or anything of the sort.  It reads the time remaining fine and shows up on the little bar on the lower right corner of the D50 screen.

Very good to know.  Anyone know where the best price on one of these might be found??

I got mine a couple months ago from Adorama for around $100, shipping included.

Just bought one last night on ebay from a guy in Canoga Park, CA for $45. and free shipping.  I made an offer on his $49.99 buy it now price.  I'd bet he'd for for $40. Damn good price.  Sony's website is now saying the the 16 GB Sony Memory Stick PRO Duo Mark 2 is compatable with the D50, sweet...

It appears that we are even getting counterfeiters here in the states.  This guy sent me a fake card.  Says he just found out about it and has already refunded my money.  Will pay a bit more for the genuine article from reputable dealer.  No more ebay cards for this kid...  Just a head's up peeps.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: stantheman1976 on January 07, 2009, 06:40:35 PM
A lot of cards listed on eBay are fakes.  I remember that eBay had a warning about counterfeit memory cards at one point.  I would only buy from a reputable source.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: frogger on January 08, 2009, 04:30:44 PM
Only one issue, is anyone else have a little trouble pulling out the card with their fingertips??  I had to use tweezers to grab hold of it with that access door opened up. I am looking forward to a field test with my new CA-14 cards and a CA 9100 this weekend...

Glad to hear the larger cards are working.  I have the same problem trying to get the card out.  Anybody have a solution for that?

Thanks
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Falconidave on January 16, 2009, 05:59:03 PM
Just received a 16gb Sony DUO Pro Mark 2 card from Buy.com for $98.26.  It works perfectly in my D50, no error messages on start-up and it's the GENUINE article.   
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: JM Charcot on January 19, 2009, 06:08:49 AM
Here's the ebay link regarding fakes :
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http://reviews.ebay.com/FAKE-Sony-Memory-Stick-Pro-Duo-MagicGate-Cards-Exposed_W0QQugidZ10000000001236041?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:LISTINGS:2
So I assume all the error messages are with "Memory Stick Pro Duo MagicGate"?

Kind regards,

JM.
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: Falconidave on January 19, 2009, 06:23:00 PM
Here's the ebay link regarding fakes :
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http://reviews.ebay.com/FAKE-Sony-Memory-Stick-Pro-Duo-MagicGate-Cards-Exposed_W0QQugidZ10000000001236041?ssPageName=BUYGD:CAT:-1:LISTINGS:2
So I assume all the error messages are with "Memory Stick Pro Duo MagicGate"?

Kind regards,

JM.

There are no problems with the cards marked "Magic Gate" per se.  It's the counterfeit cards and some brand other than Sony that are giving the error messages.  I've got a 4GB Sony, a 16GB Sony, a and a Sandisk Ultra II 8GB all marked "Magic Gate", and "PRO Duo", and they all work beautifully.  Of course they are all "genuine" brand products.  I think the lesson here is stay away from the cheapo ebay and likely counterfeit memory cards...
Title: Re: Sony D50 - "Unknown Media" when MS inserted
Post by: nolonemo on January 21, 2009, 01:25:25 PM
I think the lesson here is stay away from the cheapo ebay and likely counterfeit memory cards...

Why anyone would trust their data, either photographic or audio, to any media other than a top name brand from an unimpeachable source in the first place is totally beyond me....