Topic: SAX>722 issue

[jmerin]

Hopefully it's not the sax.  You probably should try different cables, both mic cables and interconnect cables, to make sure it is not them.

When I sold my akg/jklabs set-up, Tommy who bought it was having a very similar problem.  Turned out to be a problem with the interconnects he was using, and a new pair fixed everything up for him.

See you at moe. in a few days!

thanks todd, see you in a few days.  i tried different interconnects. didn't do anything. 

[gewwang]

fresh=bought them the day before the shows, bought a Energizer MAX
Alkaline 9V Battery -6 Pack

I've had bunk new batteries from both Energizer and Duracell.  Haven't tried many others.  Could just be because I use(d) them less, but I've not stumbled across any bad out-of-the-box lithium 9v batts.  Might be worth a try.  Might be worthwhile to test them in other high-draw gear if you have any lying around.

I would definitely buy a new batch of energizers or duracell alkalines and try again. The last time I had issues with bad batteries in the sax was when I bought a 6 pack of Energizers from a Home Depot before two shows on back-back days. The first show came out fine but that night and the following day after the show, I left the other 4 batteries in the front seat of the car in 90+ degree June weather. The following night as I was swapping batteries, the new batteries felt warm as I was loading them but I didn't think it would be a problem since the night before went fine. Then 30 minutes into the show, I saw the levels on my recorder jumping around from min to overload and the problem was the batteries since a new pair of batteries worked fine the next morning.

[baustin]

Here's what was happening over the course of multiple nights. I'm assuming Jon was changing batteries every night. First of all, the 722 was set to Line In. The channels were linked and after noticing an issue, they were turned all the way up ( +6 I believe ). With the Sax set to LOW Gain and cranked, the levels never left the green on the 722. With the Sax set to HIGH Gain and cranked to about +40db, the levels were reaching about 12db on the 722. This is during a concert mind you. To my ears through headphones plugged into the 722, it sounded fine, just low.

Possible issues:
-Lemo Cables
-Sonosax (Purchased Brand New)
-Interconnects (Sax~>722)
-Batteries

[tim in jersey]

Is it possible the line-in controls on the 722 were set to menu items 29 and 30 ( line-in gain controlled by menu sensitivity settings) as opposed to item 28 (controlled by front panel knobs)?

You probably already checked that but a quick idiot-check can never hurt...

[jmerin]

Is it possible the line-in controls on the 722 were set to menu items 29 and 30 ( line-in gain controlled by menu sensitivity settings) as opposed to item 28 (controlled by front panel knobs)?

You probably already checked that but a quick idiot-check can never hurt...

nope, didn't change a thing.  when i use a v3 it works fine, as well as another sax

[scb]

so 1 sonosax works, another doesn't?

[jmerin]

so 1 sonosax works, another doesn't?

correct

[Brian Skalinder]

so 1 sonosax works, another doesn't?

correct

If I understand correctly, it's not the same Sax, nor the same 722, in these comparisons, though, i.e. a completely different Sax + 722 worked fine some time in the past, while this particular Sax > 722 combo isn't working.  Or maybe I'm missing that it's the same physical Sax and 722 units in all of the discussion about "before" and "now"?

Is it possible the line-in controls on the 722 were set to menu items 29 and 30 ( line-in gain controlled by menu sensitivity settings) as opposed to item 28 (controlled by front panel knobs)?
You probably already checked that but a quick idiot-check can never hurt...

nope, didn't change a thing.  when i use a v3 it works fine, as well as another sax

Even though you didn't change anything, did you confirm by reviewing the actual config on the 722?  Not changing anything isn't the same as confirming the settings were configured as desired.

Tried the new batts yet?

[jmerin]

didn't try the new batteries yet, all the 722 options are the same.  will be using new batteries on thursday, if it fails tyhen i know i have to get a new one

[jmerin]

didn't try the new batteries yet, all the 722 options are the same.  will be using new batteries on thursday, if it fails then i know i have to get a new one.  its the same 722.

[Craig T]

I had level issues with my NBox>722 combo once.  Turned out to be a short in the cable connected to the Collette.  I cranked the gain (line in) on the r09, but couldn't peak above -12.  If its not the batteries, I'd send the sax and lemo's in for a checkup.  I didn't suspect the cables since both channels were equally affected, but it turns out due to the circuit layout of the NBox, both channels saw the short.  I watched Nick fix the connection to the Collette - damn those things are tight.  Mine shorted out because I pulled a bit of the cable right out of the strain relief clip.

[Jhurlbs81]

+T for your troubles Jon.  At least you have a back-up V3

Good luck with getting your issue straightened out.

Jesse

[jmerin]

UPDATE:

I bought new batteries and it works fine,  now i know stay away from energizer.  i had bought 18 badbatteries for the cruise.  now i know.  thanks again for the help

[F.O.Bean]

UPDATE:

I bought new batteries and it works fine,  now i know stay away from energizer.  i had bought 18 badbatteries for the cruise.  now i know.  thanks again for the help

damn, that sweet Jon! Crazy shit for sure, i would run it on 'high' gain setting fwiw, but i guess on '0' youd be fine too

so what did you do on the cruise when you realized you had bunk batteries?

[jmerin]

UPDATE:

I bought new batteries and it works fine,  now i know stay away from energizer.  i had bought 18 badbatteries for the cruise.  now i know.  thanks again for the help

damn, that sweet Jon! Crazy shit for sure, i would run it on 'high' gain setting fwiw, but i guess on '0' youd be fine too

so what did you do on the cruise when you realized you had bunk batteries?

its crazy, i thought my gear was messed up.  but now i know, wich i bought new 9 volts on the cruise, couldn't find any