Topic: Fr-2 Vs. SD 722

[F.O.Bean]

they prolly meant november 05

[Sean Gallemore]

they prolly meant november 05

don't give em too much credit, bean

[F.O.Bean]

they prolly meant november 05

don't give em too much credit, bean

hehe, i had to ya know

[zephead]

Is this the end of the line for the SD7xx box end-user feedback? This machine should be made into an X-files story... Where's Marc Nutter's stuff?

dazed and confused...

[BobW]

I'm vining a SCI tapersection recording with a T-Mod FR-2 for anyone who wants to hear it.
It was recorded with the Studio Projects LSD2.

Will U/L it or B&Free it to anyone who really can't do the vine.

-Bob

[Lil Kim Jong-Il]

Just to let everyone know, shipping has finally commenced on the 744t.   Our first 2 units will arrive on Monday.   Things should continue to move quickly from there....

- Frank

Frank, did you ever get your customer units?

Marc Nutter, did you get any customer units yet?

[Nick's Picks]

prone to vibration and heat hdd failures..but that is a fault of the media.
they kick ass on CF cards.  I still think its the best sounding "all in one" box ...as long as you buy into the Oade sound.

[Nick's Picks]

T mod w/your Gefells, i'd guess would sound pretty sweet.  That was mentioned earlier on in this thread I think...as Dougs recomendation.  fwiw...

why didn't i keep mine?  well, at the time I just wasn't psyched w/my Omod, and didnt have the extra change for the other mods.  I would have gone T myself as I was running AKG 414s then.  the Omod was a little harsh sounding in the highs.  I love Carls W mod.  that thing fucking rocks. 

IMO, keep your UA5s and go w/the microtrack.  Unless you really want a single box, but I doubt that you'd hear much of a difference between them...other than the A/D chip, and i'm not sure what the fostex has in it or how they directly compare.
smaller, easier to power..and you know it sounds good.

[nickgregory]

it is the only one that will go 24/192.

the 722 does 24/192 as well

[JasonSobel]

the pmd 671 only goes 24/48, apparently Doug is almost ready to announce that he is ready to mod that also correct?

the Marantz PMD-671 will do 24/96.  not 192kHz, but it will do 96kHz.

[Nick's Picks]

the other Marantz box...whos numbered name escapes me...is supposed to be very nice.  Its only 16bit, but Doug does a "concert mod" to it and he has been raving about how awesome it sounds.
fwiw...

He intends to send one to me for review last we spoke. 

[WiFiJeff]

so now that people have had the opportunity to play around with these two machines for awhile, any more feedback?  any shortcomings with the fr-2 ?

Even the latest version 1.08 of the firmware has needs some work.  It handles digital-in somewhat oddly, indicating lock on lower frequency than you're feeding it.  I corresponded last week with Fostex about it, here is what they told me:

>
>
> > Dear Jeff,
> >
> > The FR2 is working correctly.
> > The reason why the FR2 displays 48KHz, despite the fact
> > that it is correctly recognizing and looking to the incoming
> > 96kHz digital signal is;
> >
> > The digital signal source still issues a flag of 48kHz although
> > it is generating 96kHz.
> >
> > The recorded file by the FR2 has the correct 96kHz attribute
> > so that the editing software should find it without problem.
> >
> > FYI, our headquarters is considering the software
> > update on the FR2 so that it ignores the wrong flag issued
> > by the source.
> >
> > AES/EBU did not used to have the standard above 48kHz
> > sampling frequency. There still are many products that
> > put wrong flag in the market.

> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 11:54 AM
> To: masaki@fostex.com
> Cc: rick@fostex.com
> Subject: FR2 96KHz Digital Recording
>
> I have taped some music with the digital input at 96 kH,
> and I think I am getting a good signal. The odd thing is
> that the Lunetec V3 feeding at 96 kH causes the FR2 to say it
> is locked at 44.1 kH, while the Core Sound Mic 2496 causes
> it to lock at 48 kH. When I play the files back in Wavelab,
> they play in slow motion and show up under "Audio Properties"
> as having 44.1 and 48 kH rates. When I edit this property to
> 96 kH they play correctly. It would be nice if a future
> firmware upgrade could correct this (without causing trouble
> elsewhere!).
>
> Jeff

Dear Jeff,

Thank you for your test report.
Yes, Fostex will change the Fs flag recognition
on the software update near future.

 

[WiFiJeff]

I don't think there's a problem with an external preamp, just external A/D.  And it works, you just have to change the properties in Wavelab, much less of a hassle than the recently corrected Marantz 671 firmware issue of using the new Microsoft wav formats that Wavelab and others don't recognize.  The FR2 also does recognize both AES (V3) and consumer digital levels automatically.  But I hate not being absolutely certain during recording that I'm properly locked-in.

Jeff

[janka]

The thing with the FR-2 is you don't need to run an external a/d. I think the AD section sounds fantastic. I could see running a pre if you don't get the Oade mods but no need for an external AD. Wait and get the M-Audio if you have an ADC you're planning on running in the chain..

[Nick's Picks]

yea...for $1600 I think you can get the Oade mod of your choice.
and I still think it smokes anything else out there.