Topic: Milab VM-44 supercardioid

[Mattias_Milab]

Hi guys,

We are introducing the new Milab VM-44 supercardioid capsule this week at the LLB Expo in Stockholm.

You can find the press release here: http://www.milabmic.com/news.asp?show=one&id=91

/Mattias

[johnmuge]

Great news Mattias !!  Looking forward to getting a pair.

[Todd R]

[yug du nord]

Do the VM-44 Link's accept various capsules?  I didn't know that if that's the case.....  I was thinking that they were straight cardioid.
This is kinda a WOWZER for me......  I love the super-cards!!!
Very cool news!

[newplanet7]

Do the VM-44 Link's accept various capsules?  I didn't know that if that's the case.....

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Guess we should have read up if that's the case.

[Gutbucket]

This makes the links even more attractive now with omni, cardioid and supercard options.

Do these play the Nianit tinybox game?

[Todd R]

Yes, you can use different caps on the vm44-links.  Up to now it was card and omni only, now they have card, supercard (often called hypercardioid rightly or wrongly), and omni.

Nothing yet with the naiant tinybox, but maybe we should hit up Jon to see if he can get the proper polarization voltages out of the tinybox to run the vm44link actives/capsules without the bodies.  Seems like it should be do-able.

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Yes, you can use different caps on the vm44-links.  Up to now it was card and omni only, now they have card, supercard (often called hypercardioid rightly or wrongly), and omni.

Nothing yet with the naiant tinybox, but maybe we should hit up Jon to see if he can get the proper polarization voltages out of the tinybox to run the vm44link actives/capsules without the bodies.  Seems like it should be do-able.

I see where you're going with it and I thought I'd add; you can use the normal tinybox (P16) with them since they are 12-52v mics, but nothing yet on the body replacement systems as you noted.

[cashandkerouac]

This makes the links even more attractive now with omni, cardioid and supercard options.

yes, very much so.

[F.O.Bean]

I LOVE the Card version of the VM44 Links, so these are DEF a competitor for my next pair of mics How much is a set w/ the caps, bodies and cables

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I LOVE the Card version of the VM44 Links, so these are DEF a competitor for my next pair of mics How much is a set w/ the caps, bodies and cables

aprox 3.5-4k for 2 bodies, single set of cables, and 3 sets of caps. Single set of cards/bodies/cables to get started is 1.5-2k. Dirk sells them. (I looked today)

[rastasean]

I don't know what single set of cables means but the links are two separate sets of mics therefore two separate sets of cables. The hyper cap is brand new (as per this thread) so you could only order cards and omnis as of right now.
Dirk sells them through the distributor of Full Compass, FDW-W, but I would recommend Dirk!

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I don't know what single set of cables means but the links are two separate sets of mics therefore two separate sets of cables. The hyper cap is brand new (as per this thread) so you could only order cards and omnis as of right now.
Dirk sells them through the distributor of Full Compass, FDW-W, but I would recommend Dirk!

1 set of 2 cables; a set of cables. "a pair" probably would have been a better phrase.

[datbrad]

One thing to note, the links are hard wired between the capsule housing, and the bodies. I personally would go for the VM44 Classic with card and supercard capsules. That setup runs around 3K for a pair at Full Compass.

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One thing to note, the links are hard wired between the capsule housing, and the bodies. I personally would go for the VM44 Classic with card and supercard capsules. That setup runs around 3K for a pair at Full Compass.

I thought they disconnected on the body end based on pictures on milab's site. Looks almost like a 5 pin lemo connection.

[vwmule]

Any idea what these are going to sell for?

[datbrad]

One thing to note, the links are hard wired between the capsule housing, and the bodies. I personally would go for the VM44 Classic with card and supercard capsules. That setup runs around 3K for a pair at Full Compass.

I thought they disconnected on the body end based on pictures on milab's site. Looks almost like a 5 pin lemo connection.

Not sure about that, but I know the connection to the capsule end is definately hard wired like the DPA 4022. My buddy Matt has a set but I didn't look at the bodies closely. I just like having balanced wire connecting everything, which is why I prefer the VM44 Classic.

[datbrad]

Any idea what these are going to sell for?

The other capsules run $500-$600 each, so I hope these are going to be similarly priced.

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One thing to note, the links are hard wired between the capsule housing, and the bodies.

I thought they disconnected on the body end based on pictures on milab's site. Looks almost like a 5 pin lemo connection.

Not sure about that, but I know the connection to the capsule end is definately hard wired like the DPA 4022.

Yes, I concur. Reminds me of the Schoeps KC5 cables in that regard, connector and cable are one.

[Todd R]

The cable is hard-wired into the active head on the vm44-link cables.  These are removable capsules though, unlike the DPA402x series, so you can unscrew the capsule (eg, cardioid) from the active head and replace it with an omni or hyper cap.  Meaning, all you need is one set of bodies+active cables, then as many capsule options you'd like.

The active cables though hard-wired at the active head/capsule side can disconnect from the bodies. The connector isn't like any I've seen before.  Definitely not the normal lemo connection, but I have no idea who makes the connector.

I think whether you wanted the vm44-link mics or the vm44 classic is just a matter of personal preference on using full bodies vs active cable mics.  Same deal either way, unscrew one capsule and replace it with another.

Edit:  Also, I believe the vm44-link is balanced.  I've never seen the circuit schematic published or dug that deeply inside, but iirc the connector is a 5-wire connector (or at least is 5 pins, not sure if all are attached).  Also, I'm pretty sure the links use belden 1804a cable, which is 4 conductors plus shield.  That indicates to me it is a balanced approach, not unbalanced.

[datbrad]

If the link cable is balanced, then Milabs win for best low profile setup in my book, especially for the price.

I don't stealth or otherwise need the links myself, and ever since holding a set of VM44 classics in my hand that a friend bought last year, I have had it in mind should I ever get another set of mics. I have always hoped for a hyper/super card capsule being offered, which they now have. 

[Mattias_Milab]

Thanks for all the positive feedback.

Our US distributor tells me that the new capsule is in their system, which means your Milab dealer should be able to get pricing info by now.

[vwmule]

$581.60 per cap, says Full Compass.

[dactylus]

$581.60 per cap, says Full Compass.

 

[ArchivalAudio]

super....
now only if they made some Figure 8's for a nice low pro blumlein rig