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mic angles and spacing
« on: April 20, 2004, 03:04:16 AM »
I have read up on mic spacing and angles and have x/y down but that is about it.  I would like to try out some new configurations this summer and the best help i have found is from other tapers at shows.  I find it very confusing to try and figure out some diffrent configs with the TL's and the akg bar.  I also have the shure bar but with these mics nothing seems correct.  Even when i look at dpa or any of the other sources from diffrent configs nothing seems correct with the TL's.  I haven't been taping that long and would like to hear what my mics can sound like without being in x/y.  I'm sure this isn't an easy thing to explain or maybe i'm just not seeing what i'm supposed to.  Thanks for any help you can give.  
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2004, 05:59:21 AM »
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2004, 07:15:05 AM »
yessir, what he said... a favorite of mine is DIN, just a suggestion for one of those pick from and mess around with

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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2004, 02:02:26 PM »
Awesome page! Does anyone have anything like that setup for smaller diaphram mics, like the MC012s?
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2004, 03:21:19 PM »
so how do you measure the angle? I have pieces that are 17,20,30 cm
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2004, 03:31:53 PM »
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2004, 03:38:41 PM »
Great website. I dont do enough with different patterns esp since I got my tl's


Quote from: SpeshulEd on April 20, 2004, 05:59:21 AM
try this site...
http://homepage.mac.com/gottajiboo40/Menu10.html
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2004, 04:15:09 PM »
Then neumann site was great.  Thanks for the links, can't wait to try out some diffrent configs
+T for everyone.  Thanks for the links and the helpful info.
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2004, 08:10:02 PM »
Quote from: twoodruff on April 20, 2004, 03:21:19 PM
so how do you measure the angle? I have pieces that are 17,20,30 cm

I also have pieces of those lengths, but a good way for me of figuring out angles is to start at 90* and eyeball it.  Even if you're not dead on 80* or 110* etc... that's the part of experimentation that makes for great tapes, IMO

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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2004, 10:08:54 PM »
do you measure from the center if the cap
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2004, 11:25:36 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2004, 01:17:34 AM »
Awesome, +T for the link, and I have to go back and +T Mr. pnobles as well for making those pretty pictures. I still need to go out and get me one of those vert. bars....
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2004, 09:25:31 AM »
Quote from: SpeshulEd on April 20, 2004, 05:59:21 AM
try this site...
http://homepage.mac.com/gottajiboo40/Menu10.html

Awesome site- thanks dude!

+t

To add to the original question, and of course, I know the answers aren't really simple, but what do you use to decide which config to use?

I tape mostly in crappy bars w/ poor room acoustics and/or poor sounds systems, so I usually use the Hyper config on my TL's, and I have read that XY will limit the boominess, so I have pretty much been using that exclusively.

I am wondering though- what are the criteria that one would use in deciding to run DIN or ORTF instead of XY?  

I am also always afraid of making a recording that blows too...
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Re:mic angles and spacing
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2004, 11:47:59 AM »
Do you think that, overall, the differences are subtle?  If so, I might not need to worry so much about not pulling a crappy tape...
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