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Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« on: April 21, 2004, 02:27:15 PM »
I was going to buy Justin '"O"'s matched pair but when he told me his wife gave him the okay to keep them I would be the nice guy and just let him refund me.

I can get a pair of unmatched TLs for 650 or a matched pair for 800

just wondering what you think I should do?
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2004, 02:27:46 PM »
whoops, wrong forum, please move
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2004, 02:34:45 PM »
Most of the things I have read is that ADK's QC is good enough that unmatched pairs are going to be close to matched anyways...

And, by most accounts, you might not be able to notice the difference anyways...


Mine are matched, but I think they are completely awesome.  Great mics.
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2004, 03:08:00 PM »
In theory, you should go with the matched to ensure you have even coloration across both channels.  In practice, I doubt you'd ever notice if you went with the unmatched pair.  I ran an unmatched pair of the older version TL's and I never noticed a difference in sound between the 2 mics.  When the new version came out with Larry claiming they sounded even better, I went with a matched pair because I'm the type of guy who thinks too hard about stupid details like matching (stupid considering what we are taping, I mean are the PA's channels "matched"?).

What are you planning to run behind the TL's?

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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2004, 03:12:31 PM »
I will be running W-Mod UA-5 > JB3 or Laptop depending on venue
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2004, 03:17:36 PM »
I will be running W-Mod UA-5 > JB3 or Laptop depending on venue

cool, another one.  great rig.  you will be pleased.
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2004, 03:21:53 PM »
I will be running W-Mod UA-5 > JB3 or Laptop depending on venue

cool, another one.  great rig.  you will be pleased.

Same as mine, as well.  Welcome, brother.

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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2004, 03:48:56 PM »
thank you, it has been ordered, they are coming friday just in time to see some good bands this weekend
+t to you guys for helping
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2004, 03:55:39 PM »
thank you, it has been ordered, they are coming friday just in time to see some good bands this weekend
+t to you guys for helping

Did you get the matched, or unmatched?

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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2004, 04:32:21 PM »
unmatched, figured it wasn't worth the $150 extra
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2004, 10:04:57 PM »
Well I ran them today TL > WMod UA5 > Laptop and JB3
damn nice sounding, now if only the soundboard guys could keep the levels correct....Vocals went out a few minutes in and they turned up everything else to compenstate for a minute or 2.  then vocals came back and everything was distorted so I had to keep adjusting my levels every time they did theirs
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2004, 10:14:09 PM »
fwiw in cases like that i make sure to set my levels lower than normal and just leave them there.  when im doing field taping im not a foh engineer- i wanna enjoy the show and just let my tapes roll

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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2004, 11:07:33 PM »
there were set perfect at first but then the sbd people adjusted like crazy so I didn't want it distorted.

Thanks for the tip, i will do that next time
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2004, 11:00:02 PM »
thanks for being so understanding about my situation +T!  good luck w/ your new mics you're gonna love them ;)
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Re:Matched Pair or UnMatched TLs?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2004, 12:37:33 PM »
In theory, you should go with the matched to ensure you have even coloration across both channels.  In practice, I doubt you'd ever notice if you went with the unmatched pair.  I ran an unmatched pair of the older version TL's and I never noticed a difference in sound between the 2 mics.  When the new version came out with Larry claiming they sounded even better, I went with a matched pair because I'm the type of guy who thinks too hard about stupid details like matching (stupid considering what we are taping, I mean are the PA's channels "matched"?).

What are you planning to run behind the TL's?

Craig.


Hey Craig,

I don't think this is a stupid detail at all. Sure, the PA system is not stereo "matched". But since your mics are, when you get home and listen after the show you can hear exactly how unmatched it was! I personally like to get matched pairs also, I think even small level differences on the order of a dB or so can audibly pull the stereo image to one side or the other. (yeah I admit it, I am an imaging freak!!   :)  )

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