Topic: Really starting to think I should run the roll-off full time

[Jason B]

Holy crap. The bass is out of control. I love bass, but this is ridiculous. Even in XY, the U89's bring the boom. Leftover Salmon is pounding out of my sub right now. I guess I could just adjust the gain on my sub everytime I play my U89 tapes.  

[jpschust]

hehehe yah the u89s carry some crazy bass.  its tight, but heavy.  i love it.  dude- ive got a solution- start taping rap :-D

[Craig T]

yep, I learned that after running LD's for awhile, namely the Neumann's since the TL's have more natural rolloff and haven't been as bass heavy.  With omnis or cards, I almost always run a mild rolloff with the V3 (& V2 when I had one).  I think I used a -6db/octave slope @ 75Hz.  I don't use rolloff when running hypers from the section or anything on stage.

[zhianosatch]

No shizzle. I bricked the snot out of Schwilly's M1 at Ras Michael, and that bass was child's play compared to Cradle of Filth (when I almost brickwalled the SBM-1's line input) and the latest Static-X show (when -6db/85 Hz wasn't enough avoid bricking my AD-20 - so much for my HPF filter mod).

[Tim]

Dan Estrin told me that he ran the 80hz rolloff on the u89s everytime he taped. They can really bring the thunder Jason, I know it's taken me almost a year now of running them to really get a good feel for when to rolloff and when not to. When run in omni or sub I almost always rolloff, when run in card and upclose I rolloff all the time too.

[Jason B]

Yeah, I think the only time I will not use the roll-off from here on out is when on-stage and when taping acoustic bluegrass. The Salmon show sounds good (minus the fucking idiots who refused to talk to one another in a volume that was not audible by everyone in the club) but the bass is intense. Just a little turn down on the sub and everything is fine. I have a feeling that if I start using the roll-off, I can leave the gain on my sub at the same level that I do for all other shows, and it will sound like it does when I have to turn it down for shows with the U89's with no roll-off. Make sense? The Audio magic Spellcaster's really made an inprovement in the smoothness of the bass as well.

[Jason B]

yep, I learned that after running LD's for awhile, namely the Neumann's since the TL's have more natural rolloff and haven't been as bass heavy.  

Exactly. The TL's sound great with heavy bass due to the natural roll-off. I never made a tape with them that was too bass heavy, but the U89's are a different story. The bass can just get out of control!

[BC]

Dan Estrin told me that he ran the 80hz rolloff on the u89s everytime he taped.

Any idea if Big Cypress NYE 99' U89 FOB's were with the roll off or not? There is some pretty prominent low end on there! If this was WITH, I can't imagine how thunderous it would be without.    

Take care,
Ben

[Jason B]

I'm almost positive Dan ran the roll-off on those omni's.

[Tim]

I'd be suprised to find out that he didn't actually.

Jason, I've got some tapes that will rattle your gut... u89(card/din/fob 18' from the stage)->M148->Mod SBM-1 will shake your house!

[baustin]

I've been running the u89's for about 4 years now and have consistently found them to sound better with the 80Hz rolloff turned on. I ran my u89's for the first time under the guidance of Dan Estrin during the summer Phish tour of 2000 and I remember him saying that he always ran with the rolloff activated.

BTW, there were some u89 pics from Big Cypress circulating a few years ago. I'll see if I still have them.

-Bryan

[Brian]

FWIW i run TL>v2>modsbm1 and pretty much use the hpf's on the V2 at all times.  since you can customize them by changing out the jumpers i have the hpfs set for all the different indoor venues i tape in locally.  we'll see how the combo sounds outside, probably won't need to use them unless i'm pretty far FOB.  

[Tim]

I've been running the u89's for about 4 years now and have consistently found them to sound better with the 80Hz rolloff turned on. I ran my u89's for the first time under the guidance of Dan Estrin during the summer Phish tour of 2000 and I remember him saying that he always ran with the rolloff activated.

BTW, there were some u89 pics from Big Cypress circulating a few years ago. I'll see if I still have them.

-Bryan

I'd love to see those pics Bryan!

[F.O.Bean]

I've been running the u89's for about 4 years now and have consistently found them to sound better with the 80Hz rolloff turned on. I ran my u89's for the first time under the guidance of Dan Estrin during the summer Phish tour of 2000 and I remember him saying that he always ran with the rolloff activated.

BTW, there were some u89 pics from Big Cypress circulating a few years ago. I'll see if I still have them.

-Bryan

I'd love to see those pics Bryan!

me too

[twoodruff]

Holy crap. The bass is out of control. I love bass, but this is ridiculous. Even in XY, the U89's bring the boom. Leftover Salmon is pounding out of my sub right now. I guess I could just adjust the gain on my sub everytime I play my U89 tapes.  

No rolloff EVAH here. I may use it at bonaroo if I run the omni's and will def try on the subs.