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Naiant AKG active naming conventions
« on: February 22, 2014, 05:57:07 PM »
Picked up the Naiant package ... and notice there's no standard way to describe.

AKG CK61>Naiant Actives>
AKG ck61> Naiant AKG Colletes/PFA

I like the simplicity of the first. Thoughts?
« Last Edit: April 09, 2014, 12:08:48 PM by vwmule »

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2014, 06:11:26 PM »
I've been using something like this for my AKG Actives setup for a while now:

AKG CK63 >Naiant Active Coupling & Cable > Naiant TinyBox > Sony PCM-M10 [24/48]

I'll likely use something like this down the road when I get to my PFA actives:

AKG CK63 > Naiant Active Coupling & Cable w/ PFA > (whatever)

But that's me.   I'll distinguish between the two because I'll be using both.

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2014, 06:13:37 PM »
I've been using "AKG CK63 > Naiant AKG Actives > Naiant Tinybox"
Mics: Schoeps MK5,MK41 CMC6,KCY,KC5 | AKG ck63,ck1 C460B,C480B | DPA 4061 | Naiant X-R card,hyper | CA-14o,c
Pres: Sound Devices USBPre2 | Naiant Tinybox | Church Audio 9200, UBB
Recs: Zoom F8 | Edirol R-44 | Sony PCM-M10 | Tascam DR-2d
Video: Sony CX550(2), CX580, HX9

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2014, 07:53:09 PM »
> AKG Colettes

That doesn't make sense when you know what the name means. "Colette" is what Dr. Schoeps (40 years ago now) chose to call his company's then-new CMC microphone series/system. It comes from the name of an actual, living person--the favorite niece of a retired French colonel whose influence with the French national broadcasting company (then called the "ORTF") was critical in getting them to adopt Schoeps microphones in the 1950s. The ORTF remained Schoeps' biggest single customer during the years in which the company became solidly established.

So the name applies only to products made by Schoeps for that one specific system; it doesn't even apply to the various other types of microphones and accessories that Schoeps makes.

An "active" accessory is an extension device between the capsule and amplifier of a condenser microphone that has active circuitry in it (the FET impedance converter). Schoeps--more precisely Jörg Wuttke, Schoeps' chief engineer at the time--invented this type of arrangement; he and Dr. Schoeps were awarded a patent on it. Other manufacturers found their customers switching to Schoeps and decided that they had to offer functionally similar (or at least similar-looking) arrangements. But because of the patent, their extension accessories were passive, or else they were skating close to the line and daring Schoeps to sue them. Only in more recent years, since the patent expired, have other major manufacturers legally been able to imitate the Schoeps system more closely, introducing extension accessories that are actually active.

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« Last Edit: April 07, 2014, 07:54:14 AM by DSatz »
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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 07:58:26 PM »
I used AKG CK63>Naiant AKG Actives>Naiant PFA>  for my first upload on LMA last night.  Wasn't sure either but after looking at other's, I went with that.
Mics: AKG C460B, ck61/ck63, Naiant Actives/PFAs, AT835 cards/hypers (4.7 mod), CA-11 Croakies
Pre/BB: GD Lunatech V3, CA-9200, UA5, SD USBPre2, Neumenn BS48i-2
Decks: Roland R-44, Marantz PMD661 (OCM), Sony PCM-M10

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2014, 08:08:48 PM »
I put...
Akg ck61 (Naiant) > tb > m10
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2014, 08:12:06 PM »
I've been using "AKG CK63 > Naiant AKG Actives > Naiant Tinybox"

And in the future "AKG CK63 > Naiant AKG Adapters > Naiant Tinybox"
Mics: Schoeps MK5,MK41 CMC6,KCY,KC5 | AKG ck63,ck1 C460B,C480B | DPA 4061 | Naiant X-R card,hyper | CA-14o,c
Pres: Sound Devices USBPre2 | Naiant Tinybox | Church Audio 9200, UBB
Recs: Zoom F8 | Edirol R-44 | Sony PCM-M10 | Tascam DR-2d
Video: Sony CX550(2), CX580, HX9

LMA: http://archive.org/bookmarks/ultfris101

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2014, 11:40:26 PM »
I'm just gonna call it a bit bucket because once it passes its A/D it is then a Bit Bucket.

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2014, 10:45:40 AM »
I like "buttery; notes of lemon and pear, with a toasted finish."  But officially, "Naiant Couplings for AKG".

Of course you would, Jon.  Of course you would.   ;D

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2014, 11:32:34 AM »
OK.  Will start using "AKG CK61>Naiant Couplings for AKG>Naiant PFA>....."
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Mic:AKG C460B(CK61)/HM1000(CK32/CK47), Naiant Couplings/PFA, ADK-TL; Preamp:Lunatec V2, Naiant Littlebox v1.5; Rec:Tascam DA-P1/DR-100mkii/DR-680; Cable:GAKcables; Bar:Shure A27M, Robb Bar 23-cm, it-goes-to-eleven DINa Active Bar, GAK 3' Bar; Mount:Shure A53M, Audix MC-MICRO; Clamp:AKG K&M 237, Photek Grip Clamp w/Manfrotto 042; Stand: Manfrotto Alu Master 3 Riser 12' AC Stand/122B, Lowel Full Pole; Battery:18000mah Universal Lithium Battery; Playback:laptop>Schiit Modi>Yamaha HTR5890>Klipsch Synergy F2. My recordings on LMA

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2014, 03:02:15 PM »
This is what I have been using for source info:

AKG CK63-ULS  > Naiant AKG Active w/PFA >
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

Recordings on the LMA: http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/ChuckM
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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2014, 03:06:31 PM »
personally, No matter what you put in the "naiant active" section, i would leave out the "akg" part
no need for it to say…
AKG __ > ___ AKG > ___
Mics - AKG ck61/ck63 (c480b & Naiant actives), SP-BMC-2
XLR Cables - Silver Path w/Darktrain stubbies
Interconnect Cables - Dogstar (XLR), Darktrain (RCA > 1/8) (1/8 > 1/8), and Kind Kables (1/8f > 1/4)
Preamps - Naiant Littlebox & Tinybox
Recorders - PCM-M10 & DR-60D

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2014, 04:02:44 PM »
I'm going to make all future product names as long as possible.  I mean like patent application length  ;D

"Naiant cylindrical apparatus mating via threads and leaf spring to a third-party capacitor microphone capsule, having the function of impedance converter, gain stage, and output buffer amplifier"

Snappy! That's got a nice ring to it...You'll have to work on "tinybox", though. Only seven letters....
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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2014, 04:09:26 PM »
Seven letters is good luck. At least... it is in horse racing.

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Re: How to describe Naiant AKG actives?
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2014, 04:13:00 PM »
personally, No matter what you put in the "naiant active" section, i would leave out the "akg" part
no need for it to say…
AKG __ > ___ AKG > ___

I can streamline mine to this:

AKG CK61-ULS (DIN, center) > Naiant active w/ PFA >
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.

Microphones: AKG C 480 B comb-ULS/ CK 61/ CK 63, Sennheiser MKE 2 elements,  Audix M1290-o, Micro capsule active cables w/ Naiant PFA's, Naiant MSH-1O, Naiant AKG Active cables, Church CA-11 (cardioid), (1) Nady SCM-1000 (mod)
Pre-amps: Naiant littlebox, Naiant littlekit v2.0, BM2p+ Edirol UA-5, Church STC-9000
Recorders: Sound Devices MixPre-6, iRiver iHP-120 (Rockboxed & RTC mod)

Recordings on the LMA: http://www.archive.org/bookmarks/ChuckM
Recording website & blog: http://www.timebetweenthenotes.com

 

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