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Re: Schoeps MK22 - placement & pattern experiences
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2012, 03:37:26 AM »
I love my mk22's. I have always run them NOS. I might go ahead and buy that Schoeps mount now. I didn't know it existed.


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Re: Schoeps MK22 - placement & pattern experiences
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2012, 03:38:29 PM »
Any feelings on best config with them outdoors? Stc22 bar?
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Re: Schoeps MK22 - placement & pattern experiences
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2012, 04:53:22 PM »
I love my mk22's. I have always run them NOS. I might go ahead and buy that Schoeps mount now. I didn't know it existed.


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Now wait a second. The stc 22g specs are:

Distance between the microphones                   210 mm
Angle between the microphones                   110 °
Recording angle   with MK 22 :                    ca. 100 °

I have a NOLA wide bar that I have been using onstage.  I am pretty sure those are the dimensions. It is about 203mm at the bar connectors, but the capsules would be a little wider and I'm pretty positive it is 110 °.  I don't see them for sale in his thread anymore. Does anyone know the dimensions of it this bar is?

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Re: Schoeps MK22 - placement & pattern experiences
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2012, 05:20:33 PM »
So it;s just a wide ORTF is all.
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Re: Schoeps MK22 - placement & pattern experiences
« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2012, 05:42:20 PM »
So it;s just a wide ORTF is all.

well, the 22g bar is intended to recreate the same stereo recording angle/effect as ortf has with cardioids. So it's a "wider ortf" in the sense of the raw numbers, but the sound effect is approximately the same since the pattern is more open.

There is a relationship to capsule angle, spacing, and pattern on the stereo image (assuming sound source angle doesn't change much). Adjust one and you're very likely adjusting the other two if you want to re-create the "stereo-ness" of an existing known pattern for that given sound angle.
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Re: Schoeps MK22 - placement & pattern experiences
« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2012, 10:43:26 PM »
the NOLA wORTF mount is 27cm of spacing

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Re: Schoeps MK22 - placement & pattern experiences
« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2012, 02:41:27 AM »
I have both mounts, they are not the same. the nola bar is wider. the schoeps bar is the same distance as a DIN bar, just at 110 degrees instead of 90. i run then them on top of each other when running 4ch mk5+mk22.

as far as indoor vs. outdoor, it really depends on where your located. if farther back, i would go with NOS, if closer up, 22g bar all the way...at least that's what i do....
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         DPA 4015c
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Re: Schoeps MK22 - placement & pattern experiences
« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2012, 09:50:24 AM »
I have both mounts, they are not the same. the nola bar is wider. the schoeps bar is the same distance as a DIN bar, just at 110 degrees instead of 90. i run then them on top of each other when running 4ch mk5+mk22.

as far as indoor vs. outdoor, it really depends on where your located. if farther back, i would go with NOS, if closer up, 22g bar all the way...at least that's what i do....
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Thanks. This will be an outdoor OTS at the board, so seems NOS is safer.
Mics: Schoeps MK4V, MK41V, MK5, MK22> CMC6, KCY 250/5, KC5, NBob; MBHO MBP603/KA200N, AT 3031, DPA 4061 w/ d:vice, Naiant X-X, AT 853c, shotgun, Nak300
Pres/Power: Aerco MP2, tinybox v2  [KCY], CA-UBB
Decks: Sound Devices MixPre 6, Zoom F8, M10, D50

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