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Title: Do you face mics out to the sides (facing more audience noise?) or toward front?
Post by: TaperedMind on January 30, 2010, 10:50:30 PM

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Title: Re: Do you face mics out to the sides (facing more audience noise?) or toward front?
Post by: OOK on January 30, 2010, 10:57:12 PM

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Title: Re: Do you face mics out to the sides (facing more audience noise?) or toward front?
Post by: ArchivalAudio on February 01, 2010, 11:31:37 PM

- one might assume you are asking if one runs in a stereo pattern (aka Stereo Array)
or you PATS ( Point At the Stacks)

like OOK stated
read all those links.

before I knew anything about any kind of patterns or arrays- I ran PATS- however I ran cards (Toa K1's ) spaced about 24"  back in the section- at Grateful Dead Shows in starting in 1986.

heck that was before I knew I could even get a patch at shows- all I knew is I needed some mics and a tall stand!

I experimented with 90° both cross Coincident ( on vertical axis) & Near Coincident( spaced but close)- I didn't like the narrow stereo image - even onstage-
ran a modified ORTF  pattern which was crossed R / L

and today usally run either DINa (17cm @ 90°) or ORTF (110° @ 17cm) - I like the stereo image of these arrays
but I run Cardiods- I like the way they sound-  not a fan of hypers- however A niece spaced omni pair is great
or a totally natural  sound from a blumlien pair is awesome.

you'll figure out what you like
and perhaps get many many opinions
check out Archive . org (Live Music Archive) for some ideas of what different patterns and mics can sound like.

peace
--Ian

Title: Re: Do you face mics out to the sides (facing more audience noise?) or toward fr
Post by: Shadow_7 on February 06, 2010, 06:16:45 PM

Well, there's some enginered ways to do it.  Being more of a hobbyist doing an audience perspective capture, I tend towards the group.  If the group is in a semi circle of acoustic performers (un-amped / no stacks).  I tend towards > 1/4 in from the end, but < 1/3 in from the end.  Generally speaking there's 4 voices in my groups and that puts the mics pointed at the break between sections, ignoring the one down the center.  If I'm too far from the group then I just point them both parallel and at the group.  As best as can be determined through thick windscreens anyway.

If you have a more commercial interest, you're probably better off sticking with the engineered ways (ORTF, X/Y, M/S, .......).  As those might lend themselves better to being mixed to mono (AM Radio / TV) and other processing effects commonly done for broadcasts.  Although I'm sure this subject has been discussed before in greater detail than I could offer.