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Title: First 2cam mix
Post by: firmdragon on September 28, 2004, 03:58:05 AM

I don't really wanna brag... well actually I do.  Since I started filming thats what I've always wanted to do, so i did.

Used Vegas video for the video portion, mixed in sbd/dat/cam auds with cool edit.

the things i learned.  45 mins of footage = the better half of 4 days, 2-3 hours each day.  but man is it worth in the end.

btw the band is  3 inches of blood:

http://www3.telus.net/public/a5a32245/3inches07-06-2004.wmv

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: dklein on September 29, 2004, 09:17:52 AM

Hey - the video production look great!   It's kinda tough to judge the sound (anyone who downloads this will understand...)

I'd hate to be that guy's vocal cords!

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: Chad817 on October 18, 2004, 11:06:58 AM

what kind of camera did you use?  Looks great for low light conditions.

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: firmdragon on October 18, 2004, 07:26:28 PM

left angle: sony dcr-trv18
right angle: sony dcr-trv240

thanks for the luv guys +T to the both a ya.

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: dklein on October 19, 2004, 02:26:25 AM

Quote from: firmdragon on October 18, 2004, 07:26:28 PM

left angle: sony dcr-trv18

cool! I've got one.

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: mizary on October 22, 2004, 12:06:11 PM

I've got a trv-22 and like it alot...  I've actually been looking on ebay for a 2nd one.  Mmmm.... 2 cam mix...

I shot a wedding last sunday...  I wish I had a second cam for that.

--mizary

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: sidewalksnoozer on January 21, 2005, 03:42:36 PM

i have a trv22 as well. used mainly for goofing off and stealthing shows, i LOVE mine.

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: hyperplane on February 10, 2005, 07:41:14 PM

looks good, firmdragon! man, you only 2-3 hours a day for 4 days? you're getting off lucky. lol

i'm in the middle of a 2-cam project and i've spent approximately 20 hours on mixixng the first 45 minutes. now i just have to do the other 45 minutes and then encode.  :o

on the constructive criticism side, it looks like that video was from a handheld source... if you're so inclined, you can actually get plugins that reduce the shakiness of the video sources. (i've been doing that in the shaky spots for the handheld cam in my current project). it requires more rendering time, but in the end, it's worth it.

also, i personally haven't messed with Vegas - not yet anyway - but is there a Levels filter in Vegas? it's worth checking out, as doing a simple adjustment on the RGB levels can work wonders for the overall appearance of the video (especially in low lit concert settings).

rock on.

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: firmdragon on February 10, 2005, 09:53:28 PM

yeah i've done a few more multi cams since that one.  i'm glad to say it doesn't take me as long anyore.

yeah both are handhelds, no shoulder mounters here.   could you point me in the direction of the the i guess image stabilizer plugins?  normally, if the shakeyness is too shakey, i'll just cut to other angle.  if both angles are shaky at the same time (yeah it happens), then well i'm s.o.l.

yep, there are level filters with vegas.  i haven't actually played around w/ plugins or any of thing like that yet.  actually the main reason why i like vegas is the previews.  which i find to be way better than premiere.

Title: Re: First 2cam mix
Post by: hyperplane on February 11, 2005, 04:44:21 PM

a quick Google search of "DeShaker" (without quotation marks) will point you to the right place. basically - as you pointed out - use a different camera angle during shaky parts, but if both videos are shaky at the same point, then you can pick which piece/clip fo which video source you want, export it to a DV .AVI file, and then run it through VirtualDub/DeShaker.

i'll have to check out Vegas. i have Premiere 6.5 and Premiere Pro 1.5, and i have to say Pro 1.5 is MUCH better at previews than 6.5 is period.

Levels filters are great. i'd only suggest using them on darker footage, where details aren't as easily seen. it's a very easy way to boost the quality of the footage quickly.

happy editing.