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Offline Tommy E.

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AES out of MME
« on: June 12, 2004, 08:16:12 PM »
When I try to run aes out of my mini me to my D7 i get a Copy Prohibt.  Does anyone know what the problem is?  Is it that it is 110 ohm cable without a converter to 75ohm?  Thanks

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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2004, 08:45:04 PM »
Hey Tommy!

The AES out on the minime is a PRO output ONLY. You can only run dap1's, m1's, hhb's, d-10's out of it. The sony consumer decks (d7, d8, d100, d3) must come out of the coax. You can't even run a consumer deck in the patch chain of the AES out.

buying a 110 to 75 converter will not help either, the data stream is encoded as pro and you can't change that, sorry.

The V3 has one set to pro and the other is switchable, sure would be nice to get the AES on the MiniMe modded to be consumer compliant!

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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2004, 08:53:27 PM »
it sure would, i'd love to use my aes on my mme for my d100
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2004, 08:58:18 PM »
Hey Tim

Thanks for your help.  You are right, it would be nice to for it to work with non pro devices.  I guess it is gonna be that loose spdif connector untill I get a new deck.

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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2004, 09:02:22 PM »
yep, I had a P1 and a D8 for a while so I ran the P1 off the minime and patched with the D8.

fwiw - I had good luck with the orange radio shack coax cables, they seemed to hold pretty well. the blue monster cables were the worst...

btw - does it still have that "Satisfied" sticker on it?
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2004, 01:19:58 PM »
yeah, it still has the sticker on it.  I guess I will have to try one of those radio shack cables until I get a pro deck.  That coax out is just so damn loose feeling.  Thanks again Tim.

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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2004, 01:29:00 PM »
get a monster cable - those plugs hold on tight.
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2004, 01:55:10 PM »
i have a monster cable and tim is right it doesn't hold on to the mini me for shit.
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2004, 02:00:33 PM »
wow...i pulled the output plug off of the back of my DA-20 mkII the first time I removed the cable...it held on so hard, it just pulled it right off.  I had to bust out the soldering iron and fix that right away.
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2004, 04:03:08 PM »
for what its worth, with the talk of the mme spdf, my pro digital modified 7pin
holds on fairly tight, but i had a custom right angle cable made to run with the
mme but the right angle plug didnt hold very tight at all, but the other end that
was the stock orange ratshack was fine
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AT4051a --> Segue Dogstars --> MP-2 --> SD 722
AT4051a --> V2 --> MiniMe --> VxPocket V2 --> Laptop
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AT4051a --> V2 --> Mod SBM-1 --> Sony TCD-D100
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2004, 04:05:20 PM »
maybe a right angle and some gaffer's tape? it doesn't have to look pretty!
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2004, 04:15:24 PM »
I taped hot buttered rum string band last night and had gaffers tape all over the right angle connector and was still having problems.  when i was adjusting the gain the mme would move downward in my bag and my d7 was losing the signal.  all i had to do to fix it was to pick the mme up just a little bit and the signal would come back.  the connections seemed ok after the show but maybe there was soem kind of stress on the cable or something.
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2004, 04:39:40 PM »
i feel you tommy, that mme spdf has a mind of its own if your coax doesnt fit right
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Mics: Neumann SKM184, Neumann SKM185, AKG C414 XLS/ST, DPA ST2015
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Former Rigs:
ADK TL --> Segue Dogstars --> SD 722
AT4051a --> Segue Dogstars --> MP-2 --> SD 722
AT4051a --> V2 --> MiniMe --> VxPocket V2 --> Laptop
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AT4051a --> V2 --> Mod SBM-1 --> Sony TCD-D100
AT4051a --> MP-2 --> AD1000 --> Sony TCD-D100
AKGC1000s --> Denecke PS/2 --> Denecke AD-20 --> Sony MiniDisc
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2004, 04:55:13 PM »
your issues sound pretty typical Tommy!
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Re: AES out of MME
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2004, 04:56:18 PM »
one thought...

see if you can get Doug Oade to open it up and put a coax pigtail coming out of the back, ala the coax mod to the sbm-1.
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