Topic: Do MBHO bodies fit in Shure A53M Doughnuts?

[shaggy]

Just curious.  Maybe a list of mic bodies that fit in the A53M would be in order.  I'll start and change the subject later as a 'list of mics that fit the doughtnuts'.

I have used A53M sucessfully with:

AKG C480b
Microtech Gefell SMS2000
Nakamichi CM300 (very tightly)
Neumann KM100 (very tightly and the badge gets in the way when comming from behind)
Schoeps CMC series

+T to any contributions!

[TNJazz]

Beyer MC930
Beyer MC803
Microtech Gefell M300

[Patrick]

Nakamichi CM300

The cm300's are a very tight fit in this mount.  It works but pulling them out leaves some residue/scratch marks on the body.  I wouldn't recommend it even though it technically does work.

[Sanjay]

not a mic, but Kwon Bar's do

[Church-Audio]

Just curious.  Maybe a list of mic bodies that fit in the A53M would be in order.  I'll start and change the subject later as a 'list of mics that fit the doughtnuts'.

I have used A53M sucessfully with:

AKG C480b
Microtech Gefell SMS2000
Nakamichi CM300 (very tightly)
Neumann KM100 (very tightly and the badge gets in the way when comming from behind)
Schoeps CMC series

+T to any contributions!

One of the most important things to remember and I think its often forgotten is this. The more of a profile your mount has behind the vents of your capsule. The more impact it has on coloring the sound of the microphone. So if you have a huge donut behind your mics capsule you will in fact color the sound by changing the geometry of the microphone and creating a space for sound to bounce off of.

Chris Church

[shaggy]

Chris, you seen these things.  They ain't so big.  Usually they are at least a two inches behind the vents (unless it is a KM140).  I think the most important thing is not to cover the vents! 

That said, there is nothing that can be done when you stealth and the caps go this way and that and have your skull next to one side of the vents and you hair brushing up beside them and the sound ofyou head pounding as blood rushes thru it..... OT, how many take the time to set something up proper when they wear mics on their heads?

+T to the ugly lot of youse...

[Church-Audio]

Chris, you seen these things.  They ain't so big.  Usually they are at least a two inches behind the vents (unless it is a KM140).  I think the most important thing is not to cover the vents! 

That said, there is nothing that can be done when you stealth and the caps go this way and that and have your skull next to one side of the vents and you hair brushing up beside them and the sound ofyou head pounding as blood rushes thru it..... OT, how many take the time to set something up proper when they wear mics on their heads?

+T to the ugly lot of youse...

When you stealth NOTHING is optimal...This is the life of the stealth taper.. But when you don't have to stealth Why not make everything optimal? There have been many papers at AES on this subject. Its a known fact I have used these mic clips lots of times. They do change the sound. I would recommend a ring suspension system with a very small footprint.. as a good way to go about holding your mic and giving proper suspension and isolation. This ain't my first picnic into microphones and what effects the sound of them... When companies test mics for frequency response they build a test jig that holds the mic so that it has no effect on frequency response. Companies like earthworks made a pole that was 8 feet long with an XLR on the end so that there would be no disruption in the response of the mic. They know what I know a shure vibration damper that was never designed for the use on a high end condenser mic but was rather designed for use with a SM-58 OR SM-57 will color your sound....


Chris Church

[shaggy]

I can see your point.  Those doughnuts are really convienent and can take a beating.  The suspension mounts I have used are a pain in the ass to tote around (AT8510 for instance).  The Schoeps A20s are better but you still have to be careful with them when you pack them up.  For alot of us, using some equipment is weighed in favor of convienence and practicality.     

What are your thoughts about using kwon bars?  Those are the same size as mic bodies themselves but they seem to be more obtrusive in relation to the doughnuts (angle-wise).  The bars are easy to use as they set up the distance and angle exactly the same each time.  That said, I usually go for the doughnut for the kwon bars and leave the A20 at home, even though I know the A20 is better at isolation.  In the case of the kwon bar, I think the A20 has a worse footprint. 

[hoyt]

Just curious.  Maybe a list of mic bodies that fit in the A53M would be in order.  I'll start and change the subject later as a 'list of mics that fit the doughtnuts'.

I have used A53M sucessfully with:

AKG C480b
Microtech Gefell SMS2000
Nakamichi CM300 (very tightly)
Neumann KM100 (very tightly and the badge gets in the way when comming from behind)
Schoeps CMC series

+T to any contributions!

I use the MBHO 603's with the A53M.  Fits.  It's snug, but it fits.  Seem to recall that the HO's are 18 mm mics?  Sound about right?

--hoyt

[shaggy]

A20s with MBHOs?  Anyone?

[OOK]

Just curious.  Maybe a list of mic bodies that fit in the A53M would be in order.  I'll start and change the subject later as a 'list of mics that fit the doughtnuts'.

I have used A53M sucessfully with:

AKG C480b
Microtech Gefell SMS2000
Nakamichi CM300 (very tightly)
Neumann KM100 (very tightly and the badge gets in the way when comming from behind)
Schoeps CMC series

+T to any contributions!

I use the MBHO 603's with the A53M.  Fits.  It's snug, but it fits.  Seem to recall that the HO's are 18 mm mics?  Sound about right?

--hoyt

21 mm to be exact....

[Nick Graham]

A20s with MBHOs?  Anyone?

Nope, I tried a few years ago and would always get right to the point of breaking the A20 and give up.

[barrettphisher]

Would these work with either Oktava MC012's or KM184's?  Thanks again.
Barrett

[manitouman]

Old thread, I know, but didn't want to start a new one....

The Neumann KM100's are 22mm in diameter. I'm using the Peluso CEMC6 mics which are also 22mm. So my question is...Just how tight is the fit? I really like this mount for non-bulky (is that a word?) purposes, but want the advantages of using a shock mount. So I guess what I'm asking is what are your experiences with these shock mounts and 22mm diameter mics. Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

[newplanet7]

What are the recommended mm sizes.
Would these fit my 391's?
They are 19mm.

EDIT:
Figured it out.
The mounts fit any 1.875 cm mic = 18.75mm
Duh!

Must have been snug for the 480's