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Offline ouzo

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white noise with R-09
« on: October 17, 2007, 12:07:53 PM »
Hi,

a couple of days I taped a Metal show using a R-09.

I used SP-CMC-10 at the line in and low mic gain, AGC off, Low cut off.

I have about 5 years experience in taping concerts with TCD-D100. It mostly came out fine.

With the R-09 I got white noise all over the recording.

What's wrong? Did I use the wrong setting? Did I use the wrong SD-CArd which was a HAMA 2GB Highspeed?


Any suggestions?


Ralf
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2007, 12:26:20 PM »
With or without a battery box?
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2007, 01:10:25 PM »
I used SP-SPSB-2B.

No roll-off.


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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2007, 01:35:05 PM »
Did you test at home before the show?

Does your r09 record  with the internal mics?

Have you ever made a recording on the r09?
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2007, 01:53:11 PM »
Yes I made 2 live recordings with SP-CMC-10 and battery box which were fine.

In addition I tested the internal mics which was fine, too

The recordings I made with AGC on. Might this be the reason?


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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2007, 01:58:26 PM »
I have only heard bad things about the AGC.  So that may be the problem.
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2007, 02:24:58 PM »
Freelunch,

I got the problem with AGC off  ???

While it's on the recording was fine.


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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2007, 07:26:02 PM »
Hi Ralf,

Don't know if you remember me or not (Simon_LDT on DIME). We did a trade a while back. Your Saxon recordings are excellent.

Anyways, just some advice - Never use AGC. It makes the recordings real bad (pumping levels). Not sure what this noise is though, you got any samples so we can hear it?

Cheers,
Simon.
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2007, 04:20:08 PM »
Hi Simon,

of course I remember you. What about another CD-R trade. Send me an e-mail  :)

Attached for you and all others you'll find a sample of Queensryche Langen; Germany 2007

This recording has been made with AGC off, manually leveled.

You'll find "easily" the noise I'm talking about.

Ralf
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2007, 04:36:52 PM »
I'd look but I don't have an ogg decoder.  A small lossless sample is usually best.

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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2007, 04:58:46 PM »
...and here are some seconds in WAV-format
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2007, 05:03:36 PM »
Do you get it when recording at home?
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2007, 05:14:36 PM »
I made tests eighter with or without ACG at home. No noise at all.

I didn't format the card I used for Queensryche Langen by using the R-09. Could this be the cause?


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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2007, 05:57:27 PM »
I really doubt drive formatting could impact this. I also don't think the card will have anything to do with it unless it has a very unusual electrical defect that causes interference.

While I wouldn't suggest any extensive wiggling of the delicate r09 input jack, maybe you have a cable or jack issue that only acts up when under pressure, etc.
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2007, 12:45:33 AM »
Quote from: ouzo on October 18, 2007, 04:58:46 PM
...and here are some seconds in WAV-format

btw, nice sample Ralf  :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2007, 08:12:58 AM »
Quote from: ead666 on October 19, 2007, 12:45:33 AM
Quote from: ouzo on October 18, 2007, 04:58:46 PM
...and here are some seconds in WAV-format

btw, nice sample Ralf  :laugh: :laugh:

The best sample ever. ;D ;D ;D
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2007, 10:02:51 AM »
If it's the same problem that I had in this thread then it's the SD card.

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,92539.0.html

I spoke to an engineer at Edirol and he said that high speed SD cards do not work in the R-09. You need an SDHC card.

Pete
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Re: white noise with R-09
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2007, 12:23:06 PM »
Hi,

thanks for the feedback.

Last night I taped another show using an TECHNAXX Hyperspeed 4GB, which isn't high tech rather midrange (prizewise). Nevertheless I hadn't any problems.


Ralf
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